Lets make this easy

Will TARP help? And How?

Will Universal Health Care help? And How?

Will Cap & Trade help. And How?

And the EFCA....never mind I already know your answer their.

Tarp=The economists I have heard, not all agree of course, but some say that without the TARP the economic situation would be far worse than it is. Banks and other organizations that are key to the economy would have definitely failed. For example...AIG underwrites for financial institutions all over the world...AIG going down would not have been a good thing. The other bailouts I guess were to do things like save parts suppliers etc because all auto companies (big three, Toyota, etc,) not just one, all use some of the same suppliers...just saying. Maybe you have not heard this, but I have. Google it I guess.

Universal Health Care=What is this? I have only been hearing about health care for people who do not have it and may get it if a 'health reform' bill is passed and that no one has to use it if they like the insurance they have already. You know the insurance that is raised for no reason and ya can't do a thing about it? BTW the closer we get to having something solid on this, the more rightie congress people are saying...Yes...we need a reform bill...I guess they see the train leaving the station without them, huh?

Cap and Trade= Cap and Trade will not help me. I am old. It may help the children and grandchildren both parties love to talk about all the time. Isn't it suppose to help with the environment or something? I could rest a little more easy in my grave thinking I did something for your grandchildrens health.

Something he told me also was that the majority of physicians have private practices as well. He also said that those that can afford it may opt out and carry their own insurance. He was quite pleased with the dental programs they have for children. We didn't get on the subject today this was what he told me the other day.

Well for thing, we didn't have the money to bail anyone out. We are either printing money,that most economists agree will cause inflation, and we're basically borrowing money from China. China!!?? And ya banks would have failed, including AIG. We should have let them. That's capitalism. Capitalism has to include failure. The money we gave to Gm and Chrysler was to keep them from filing bankruptcy. Well, they still did file bankruptcy. And I heard put a lot of that money into their China Plants. Now I don't if that actually happened. I think when that hit the news, GM backed off that. And ya I heard that auto bailout was to help the suppliers and such. But how can we save Gm and Chrysler if their still not selling cars like before? By giving them money, we just help put off the inevitable.

This Health Plan will lead to Universal Health Care. Anyhow, the plan that Obama wants will cost 1 trillion the first ten years. We didn't have money for the stimulus, where are we going to get money for this? It doesn't matter if its the greatest plan in the world. If we can't afford, than we can't afford. Also most economist say this will either kill small business or force them to drop health bennies all together, pay the penalty for not providing health insurance and let their employees go on the government plan. Which is why I and most people say this plan leads to Universal Health Care. Most big corporations will just pay the penalty, and small business's that probably can't afford to pay the penalty will just shut down.


Well the Cap and Trade sounds like it will help there enviroment. The idea is that green house emmissions will go down with this plan. Problem is, like that ethonal fiesco from the Bush Adminastation. All the science isn't in it. There is more and more evidence the CO2 that is put into the air doesn't really pollute. Global Warming is turning out to be false. And the CO2 that we as a nation do put out,is so so small compared to other countries. I'll try to find it later, But I read that America only puts less then 5% of the CO2 out of the total world CO2 emissions. (THAT MAKE SENSE? HOPE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT). Hell China and India are the worlds biggest polluters, and have no desire to change. Even the EPA has said Cap and Trade will fail. Saying this bill will not even knock a dent into what we put out in CO2's
Morning Bell: EPA Admits Cap-and-Trade Will Fail » The Foundry
But it will cost us in taxes, because whatever penalty the coal companies, oil companies and who ever else has to pay, will just pass the cost on to us. A backdoor tax. And Obama knows that. His own words "SKYROCKET"

All the rebuts are very very good. I have heard both sides of this and depending who you listen to, the right or the left, will depend which side you believe. I believe you are right that we should not give corporations money to stay afloat. Let them sink or swim. You see, I have to ask someone to explain to me why a 'capitalist' like Mr. Hank Paulson begged us to do this, then? Any answers to that? I mean he is a capitalist right? Who are we supposed to believe then? If he is one of the 'experts' who goes against his 'own way of thinking'?

Mr Paulson makes me sick. He and Bush were wrong to start the bailout stuff. In my mind Paulson is no capitalist. And Bush,I know is capitalist, but he let Paulson and I believe is legacy dictate his decision to start the bailout. I won't defend them.