ABF | Start the Picketline

Tax ABF I want my free HOME.

Seattle's largest businesses such as Amazon and Starbucks will have to pay a new tax to help fund homeless services and affordable housing under a measure approved by city leaders. OK We don't need to WORK!
 
Start the picket line March 2019. the year 2026 abf and yrc, buster brown will need over 174,000 drivers. Milton , JBH ,...
and GOOD-BYE!
 
Tax changes mean company pensions could make a comeback


Hah!.......Give up windfall tax profits to rescue pensions for lowly, stinky, physical labor people?

Since when has..........ANY......corporation ever allowed employees, (...and promises made to employees...)....stand in the way of Profits?

Remember your Gospel of Prosperity, Brother! "A Profit Is Not Without Honor, In A CEO's Pocket...."
 
SEATTLE -- A homeless camp that was set up on a busy sidewalk in Seattle's University District is causing concern for some who live and work in the area.
Why WORK SET YOUR HOME UP ON THE CITY SIDE WALKS!!!!!!
 
seriously...why...???

why should we americans strike for what another country is doing...???

i'll support YOUR RIGHT to strike if YOU ARE LIVING IN Brazil.

but i will NEVER support a strike here in the states

and...why..??

cuz way too many others will simply run thier pants off, making all that money, that's....why.

American truckers just NEVER agree on anything in actual doing.

they only agree to things in talking.......

FRON NOW ON I WILL KISS THE CO. ASS FROM NOW ON!

THE FREE RIDE IS OVER.
 
SEATTLE -- A homeless camp that was set up on a busy sidewalk in Seattle's University District is causing concern for some who live and work in the area.
Why WORK SET YOUR HOME UP ON THE CITY SIDE WALKS!!!!!!
Why, I'm going to be absolutely serious for a moment (and this is killing my alcohl induced buzz) but if not for my wife I would live in a small bumper pull travel trailer. Life is best with few problems and no responsibility!!! A box under a bridge would be fine. Responsibility is the American way of life but the killer of the American dream. Now back to my alcohol buzz......work hard be happy........ I'm on the sickboard and happy as........well whaever is happy.
 
Since when has..........ANY......corporation ever allowed employees, (...and promises made to employees...)....stand in the way of Profits?

Damn employees! Can't prosper with them, can't prosper without them. ;)

Seriously, canaryinthemine, you are too well read and life-experienced to really subscribe to that ideology. Every penny you are compensated is a penny less in the corporations' profit. You exchange a combination of your knowledge, effort, time and skill for compensation you agreed to. If the company makes a dollar or a million dollars YOU placed the value on the assets you bring to the table.
 
SEATTLE -- A homeless camp that was set up on a busy sidewalk in Seattle's University District is causing concern for some who live and work in the area.
Why WORK SET YOUR HOME UP ON THE CITY SIDE WALKS!!!!!!
Send a Teamster business agent down to the homeless camp on the sidewalk to organize them. Then, upon coming rank & file, they can demand softer concrete, & fencing so no one will trespass on their new home. von.
 
Damn employees! Can't prosper with them, can't prosper without them. ;)

Seriously, canaryinthemine, you are too well read and life-experienced to really subscribe to that ideology. Every penny you are compensated is a penny less in the corporations' profit. You exchange a combination of your knowledge, effort, time and skill for compensation you agreed to. If the company makes a dollar or a million dollars YOU placed the value on the assets you bring to the table.


Apostasy!

And,....please don't patronize me...I am neither "too well-read, or life-experienced"..There is no such animal, in my Opinion....
I am also not well-educated.....except for 10th Grade. Went through that one three times, and I got that one down like a science......

Do I believe that ideology? You bet I do! The corporation only makes a...profit,.....by the skills a workman brings,..implying a complicit contract between worker and company owner.
If the owner decides to ...expand a business beyond his own abilities and skills,........he must hire(contract) the number of "employees" he needs. The "need" is his,...not the employees contracted.
If he doesn't "hire"....he doesn't grow. And,....if he has a business where he can completely automate,....and doesn't need those stinky, whiny, needy employees,.........is that business worthy of being a....participant of our society?

Business tends to belittle the idea that ...originally,...a business was created to fill a societal need,...for PEOPLE! When a business gets to the point that it is both detrimental to people and society,....and has merely become a vehicle for personal wealth,......(..and personal legislative power,...in this age of Citizen's United,..)...then society,...and PEOPLE,...have to determine whether that business is....neccesary,....or not......

Most people are fed the gullible idea that business transcends societal mores and constraints........They support this "idea",...because of a very subtle infusion of "economic slavery" into modern society. You are..."beholden"....to your employer,......so you must "support" your employer........inasmuch as he will continue to trickle a few "breadcrumbs" your way,....as long as you don't question his methods or tactics.
In America,...that is tantamount to surrendering your Constitutional Rights, once you've punched the time clock......

If there are two employees in a company,...me and the owner,.....and the company makes a dollar,......well , I would certainly expect to get fifty cents of that dollar. He hired me because he didn't have the...ability...to make that dollar on his own.......

A Novel Idea,.......in this 250 year old experiment in personal liberty. One that mercantile interests hate.........The rise of Unions occurred because business owners felt that if their personal wealth dropped,....then the wealth of their employees must drop also. (See the reasons for the Battle of Homestead , Pa)........This idea implies a certain "ownership" of a group of employees........and control over their finances,.....much the same way an agrarian South controlled vast groups of people in the pre-Civil War era.......

Business owners see nothing wrong with immoral dealings with employees. Only getting caught doing it,...is the "crime". Lying and obfusticating a companies' true worth during contract times ,.....is almost "de riguer" standard negotiating tactics. Businesses claim a certain "moral high ground"....because they are "job producers".
Does that "moral high ground" still exist,....when lies, and money to influence legislation,...make certain businesses the only game in town available to certain groups of people?
Is it still "moral" when CEO's,.......who don't even have the basic skills to ...operate.....the means of production in a company,....are compensated at an obscene rate,....many times over the actual revenue-producers themselves?
At what point does a ....business....merely become a personal wealth machine,....at the expense of it's customers, employees, and American society?
 
please don't patronize me...I am neither "too well-read, or life-experienced"..There is no such animal, in my Opinion....

Not patronizing. Too well read and too life experienced to believe that way, not too well read and too life experienced. There's a distinct difference.

canaryinthemine said:
Do I believe that ideology? You bet I do! The corporation only makes a...profit,.....by the skills a workman brings,..implying a complicit contract between worker and company owner.
If the owner decides to ...expand a business beyond his own abilities and skills,........he must hire(contract) the number of "employees" he needs. The "need" is his,...not the employees contracted.
If he doesn't "hire"....he doesn't grow. And,....if he has a business where he can completely automate,....and doesn't need those stinky, whiny, needy employees,.........is that business worthy of being a....participant of our society?

Horse crap. A corporation makes a profit whenever the value placed on its goods and services exceeds the cost in providing said goods and services. There are a whole lot of cogs and levers involved in that process; none more important than the other.
A business is worthy of being a participant in our society whenever it serves a need or want. No matter if a sole proprietor or 25,000 employee corporation.

canaryinthemine said:
Most people are fed the gullible idea that business transcends societal mores and constraints........They support this "idea",...because of a very subtle infusion of "economic slavery" into modern society. You are..."beholden"....to your employer,......so you must "support" your employer........inasmuch as he will continue to trickle a few "breadcrumbs" your way,....as long as you don't question his methods or tactics. In America,...that is tantamount to surrendering your Constitutional Rights, once you've punched the time clock...

You are employed at your own free will. You can decide at any time that the compensation you agreed to receive for your services, skills, time and effort are not worth it and be done with it. The employer owes you nothing more than you agreed to.

canaryinthemine said:
If there are two employees in a company,...me and the owner,.....and the company makes a dollar,......well , I would certainly expect to get fifty cents of that dollar. He hired me because he didn't have the...ability...to make that dollar on his own...

. . . and you went to work for him because you didn't have the . . . ability. . . to make that dollar without him. ;)

canaryinthemine said:
This idea implies a certain "ownership" of a group of employees........and control over their finances,.....much the same way an agrarian South controlled vast groups of people in the pre-Civil War era.

Absurd. Drawing a comparison between a modern day employee and a slave. I don't give two rips what any employee does with their finances, much less have control over said finances. They are the sole owner of their skills and time. They decide how much that's worth. They either accept the job or they don't.

canaryinthemine said:
Business owners see nothing wrong with immoral dealings with employees.

Bullshit.

canaryinthemine said:
Is it still "moral" when CEO's,.......who don't even have the basic skills to ...operate.....the means of production in a company,....are compensated at an obscene rate,....many times over the actual revenue-producers themselves?
At what point does a ....business....merely become a personal wealth machine,....at the expense of it's customers, employees, and American society?

There you go again, getting confused about who the actual "revenue-producers" are.

Here's something to add to your reading list:

https://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Freedom-Anniversary-Milton-Friedman/dp/0226264211
 
Not patronizing. Too well read and too life experienced to believe that way, not too well read and too life experienced. There's a distinct difference.



Horse crap. A corporation makes a profit whenever the value placed on its goods and services exceeds the cost in providing said goods and services. There are a whole lot of cogs and levers involved in that process; none more important than the other.
A business is worthy of being a participant in our society whenever it serves a need or want. No matter if a sole proprietor or 25,000 employee corporation.



You are employed at your own free will. You can decide at any time that the compensation you agreed to receive for your services, skills, time and effort are not worth it and be done with it. The employer owes you nothing more than you agreed to.



. . . and you went to work for him because you didn't have the . . . ability. . . to make that dollar without him. ;)



Absurd. Drawing a comparison between a modern day employee and a slave. I don't give two rips what any employee does with their finances, much less have control over said finances. They are the sole owner of their skills and time. They decide how much that's worth. They either accept the job or they don't.



:horseshit:.



There you go again, getting confused about who the actual "revenue-producers" are.

Here's something to add to your reading list:

https://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Freedom-Anniversary-Milton-Friedman/dp/0226264211
Some of your post isn’t far off but you are mistaken about assets. Goods or products are but a portion of a company’s value. Many companies hold great value for the work force they employ.

Especially In the trucking industry. The expirenced work force at Yrc is all that saved that ship. At one point the only real asset they had was a valuable
Expirenced work force.

Abf has bought companies to grow its brand and a big reason was price and expirenced work force.

No a company can exist without a good work force. And as for working for a agreed to wage remember there is a bonus system in place at many companies to enhance a set hourly wage agreement.

You are non union and you seem to think a company is only as good as the management that runs it. And you seem to come across as said management deserves to be compensated more do than the hourly employees.

If so that would be just an opinion not a fact. I on the other hand would beg to differ with you. Without a truck driver you could have no trucking company. Such as without doctors you could not have a hospital. In that case Canary’s post also would ring true.

You can post all the links to sites that lean the same direction you do but at the end of he day it is just your opinion not factual.
 
Some of your post isn’t far off but you are mistaken about assets. Goods or products are but a portion of a company’s value. Many companies hold great value for the work force they employ.

I don't recall talking about assets or a company's value. I was talking about profit and expenses.

Muler said:
And as for working for a agreed to wage remember there is a bonus system in place at many companies to enhance a set hourly wage agreement.

Of course, and that bonus system would be part of the compensation you agreed to, not much different than all the other perks and benefits in your compensation package beyond your hourly wage.

Muler said:
You are non union and you seem to think a company is only as good as the management that runs it. And you seem to come across as said management deserves to be compensated more do than the hourly employees.

I'm non union in the sense that I currently hold a withdrawal card. I have clients that are both union and non-union. I support some unions, I am anti-Teamster.

Nobody (management, owners, hourly employees) deserves to be compensated more than the value they bring to the table.
 
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