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And here you go peddling all this BS again. Why don't you just say what you really are... like you did 7 years ago...

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No BS. You thought I hated the Teamsters because I was once management at a Teamster barn. I was simply stating that I've been hourly teamster, hourly non-teamster, management in a teamster barn, and management in a non-teamster barn. All past tense. Now I happen to be CFO for a small company that provides services to multiple LTL carriers (union and non-union). So, where's the lie you are alluding to?
 
That's funny. I'm so far from being a libtard, it's ridiculous. There's a reason lots of labor union support comes from the libtarded side of the aisle.

I think that it's kind of funny too because it's always comical watching one libtard trying to brainwash other libtards...lol

After all... who do you think they had in mind when they came up with that saying about the blind leading the blind? Just be thankful that you don't have a bunch of workers who think like yourself working for you or you wouldn't have a job too much longer because it is true... you really do get what you pay for.
 
.. do you mean the working class that just goes to work every day and do their job without even trying to find a way for the company to save more money by screwing the workers and getting them to accept less?

No, I mean there are working class CDL holders out there much more valuable to their employer than others in the same barn.

That victim in you can't see a way for a company to make more money any other way? Sad mindset.
 
No BS. You thought I hated the Teamsters because I was once management at a Teamster barn. I was simply stating that I've been hourly teamster, hourly non-teamster, management in a teamster barn, and management in a non-teamster barn. All past tense. Now I happen to be CFO for a small company that provides services to multiple LTL carriers (union and non-union). So, where's the lie you are alluding to?

First off... I said BS... not lie... do you even know the difference? If I would of meant lie... I would of said lie.

BS... nonsense ... typically to be misleading or deceptive.

Like I said... I heard all your BS before like how you started on the docks... worked in P&D... OS&D... W&I... dispatch... OPS Manager... assistant TM... Freight Claims manager and now CFO.

Tell me... do you think that makes you look like you're knowledgeable because it makes me think that you just can't seem to hold down a job very well or for very long. And yet... here you are... advocating for meritocracy... lol
 
Just be thankful that you don't have a bunch of workers who think like yourself working for you or you wouldn't have a job too much longer because it is true... you really do get what you pay for.

We are quite a happy team. None of us would have it any other way.

You really believe you get what you pay for?
 
No, I mean there are working class CDL holders out there much more valuable to their employer than others in the same barn.

That victim in you can't see a way for a company to make more money any other way? Sad mindset.

Just listen to yourself here...

do you mean the working class that just goes to work every day and do their job without even trying to find a way for the company to save more money by screwing the workers and getting them to accept less?

That victim in you can't see a way for a company to make more money any other way? Sad mindset.

Talking about a sad mindset. And let's get another thing straight... you would really deserve to have those workers work for you if they would ever fall victim to your ridiculous tactics.
 
First off... I said BS... not lie... do you even know the difference? If I would of meant lie... I would of said lie.

BS... nonsense ... typically to be misleading or deceptive.

Like I said... I heard all your BS before like how you started on the docks... worked in P&D... OS&D... W&I... dispatch... OPS Manager... assistant TM... Freight Claims manager and now CFO.

Where exactly is my misleading or deceptive words in the above statement you paraphrased?

Docker said:
Tell me... do you think that makes you look like you're knowledgeable because it makes me think that you just can't seem to hold down a job very well or for very long. And yet... here you are... advocating for meritocracy... lol

A bus boy who becomes a waiter, later a chef, and eventually a restaurant owner can't seem to hold down a job very long or very well either, by your logic. People who were given opportunities to succeed because they were above average are exactly the type advocating for meritocracy.
 
We are quite a happy team. None of us would have it any other way.

You really believe you get what you pay for?

I believe what every hard working... conscientious Teamster with that old school mentality... pride and work ethic believes in... "A fair day's work for a fair day's pay".
 
I believe what every hard working... conscientious Teamster with that old school mentality... pride and work ethic believes in... "A fair day's work for a fair day's pay".

Wow. Some common ground. On that we can agree.

Now, what about those that put in more than a fair day's work in their 8 hour shift? What about those who put in less than a fair day's work in their 8 hour shift?
 
Not patronizing. Too well read and too life experienced to believe that way, not too well read and too life experienced. There's a distinct difference.



Horse crap. A corporation makes a profit whenever the value placed on its goods and services exceeds the cost in providing said goods and services. There are a whole lot of cogs and levers involved in that process; none more important than the other.
A business is worthy of being a participant in our society whenever it serves a need or want. No matter if a sole proprietor or 25,000 employee corporation.



You are employed at your own free will. You can decide at any time that the compensation you agreed to receive for your services, skills, time and effort are not worth it and be done with it. The employer owes you nothing more than you agreed to.



. . . and you went to work for him because you didn't have the . . . ability. . . to make that dollar without him. ;)



Absurd. Drawing a comparison between a modern day employee and a slave. I don't give two rips what any employee does with their finances, much less have control over said finances. They are the sole owner of their skills and time. They decide how much that's worth. They either accept the job or they don't.



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There you go again, getting confused about who the actual "revenue-producers" are.

Here's something to add to your reading list:

https://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Freedom-Anniversary-Milton-Friedman/dp/0226264211
Try producing revenue without any people to do the work. How hard are you trying to make this?!?
 
Where exactly is my misleading or deceptive words in the above statement you paraphrased?

You can't be serious. Just who do you work for as a CFO?

IMO... you don't have a clue about the blue collar way of life but yet... want people to believe that you know everything about them and what they want... like I said... nothing but BS.

A bus boy who becomes a waiter, later a chef, and eventually a restaurant owner can't seem to hold down a job very long or very well either, by your logic.

People who were given opportunities to succeed because they were above average are exactly the type advocating for meritocracy.

You mean... like yourself... lol

Oh... so are you trying to say that they were so impressed by the way you worked on the docks that they decided to make you a CFO? And by the way... going from union man to company man isn't your regular job advancement... and IMO... someone not to be trusted.

Tell me... did you ever hear that expression... "Jack of all trades, master of none"?
 
Try producing revenue without any people to do the work. How hard are you trying to make this?!?

Not making it any more difficult than it is. Like I said, there are many cogs in the machine. Try working without any "work" or place to do it, or tools to do it with, or people willing to pay you to do it.
 
Wow. Some common ground. On that we can agree.

Now, what about those that put in more than a fair day's work in their 8 hour shift? What about those who put in less than a fair day's work in their 8 hour shift?

Are you talking about the Rank and File or the CEOs and CFOs... because there's bad apples in both? Just like when it comes to union and non union. There's many union workers that would outwork some non union workers any day of the week and there's also many non union workers that would outwork some union workers any day of the week.
 
You can't be serious. Just who do you work for as a CFO?

None of your business.

Docker said:
IMO... you don't have a clue about the blue collar way of life but yet... want people to believe that you know everything about them and what they want... like I said... nothing but BS.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Docker said:
Oh... so are you trying to say that they were so impressed by the way you worked on the docks that they decided to make you a CFO? And by the way... going from union man to company man isn't your regular job advancement... and IMO... someone not to be trusted.

Tell me... did you ever hear that expression... "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

You seem to like to share expressions. "Do you know how to eat an elephant? One bite at a time."
 
None of your business.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You seem to like to share expressions. "Do you know how to eat an elephant? One bite at a time."

Don't get mad... just start munching down on that elephant and he'll be gone in no time.
 
...there's bad apples in both? Just like when it comes to union and non union. There's many union workers that would outwork some non union workers any day of the week and there's also many non union workers that would outwork some union workers any day of the week.

Agreed again.

Of course there are good/bad in union/non-union, rank & file/officers. I don't see the need for a system that impedes the ability to differentiate between them; rewarding those that deserve reward, and penalizing those that don't.
 
Agreed again.

Of course there are good/bad in union/non-union, rank & file/officers. I don't see the need for a system that impedes the ability to differentiate between them; rewarding those that deserve reward, and penalizing those that don't.

And just who gets to differentiate between them... you?

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Like I said before... a meritocracy would work in a perfect world where everyone would be fair... honest and just but we are far from living in a perfect world. And if this were a perfect world... there wouldn't be any need for labor unions or contracts.

So... what makes you believe that a meritocracy would actually work in today's society?
 
I don't see the need for a system that impedes the ability to differentiate between them; rewarding those that deserve reward, and penalizing those that don't.

And just who gets to differentiate between them... you?

Or maybe the police...

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Do you see the flaw in your reasoning yet or do you actually have a fair and just way to differentiate between them?
 
Where exactly is my misleading or deceptive words in the above statement you paraphrased?
You can't be serious. Just who do you work for as a CFO?

IMO... you don't have a clue about the blue collar way of life but yet... want people to believe that you know everything about them and what they want... like I said... nothing but BS.
None of your business.

What's the matter... we ABF Teamsters aren't afraid... embarrassed or ashamed to admit that we work for ABF so why are you so defensive when it comes to letting us know what company you work for?
 
What's the matter... we ABF Teamsters aren't afraid... embarrassed or ashamed to admit that we work for ABF so why are you so defensive when it comes to letting us know what company you work for?

There are about ten thousand employees at ABF. Each corporation has one CFO. My views aren't always popular, statements I make may negatively impact folks who have absolutely nothing to do with my opinions.
 
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