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For me, its not so much of the rules, it's how they come about.
Almost every discipline that we have now involving the camera has transitioned from a coached event to a disciplinary event, usually under the cover of night. They can't just come out and say what they're gonna do, they have to be disingenuous and act like it wasn't the plan from the get go. We are adults.....tell us what happens now...and hold everyone in a company owned/leased vehicle to the same standards.
 
It's page one , under General Principles, in the Policies and Procedures manual. "The policies in this manual are unilateral rather than contractual. We reserve the right to change any policy, at any time and for any reason, with or without notice to you". So, you can either accept it...or do something about it.
 
Hollywoodz said:
It's page one , under General Principles, in the Policies and Procedures manual. "The policies in this manual are unilateral rather than contractual. We reserve the right to change any policy, at any time and for any reason, with or without notice to you". So, you can either accept it...or do something about it.
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One of my fos' was surprised when I showed him the company's policy on progressive discipline...they can either follow the progression as written or skip to whatever level they feel appropriate. Hr couldn't believe that was in there.
 
smokin'joe said:
One of my fos' was surprised when I showed him the company's policy on progressive discipline...they can either follow the progression as written or skip to whatever level they feel appropriate. Hr couldn't believe that was in there.
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Even set policy is subject to change whenever they see fit. A few years ago, a driver was fired for dropping a trailer in a customers yard. Two months later, another driver dropped a trailer in a customers yard, and received a half strike. We're still on 2014 policy, so it's not too confusing and when it is, I can refer back to the manual from back then. However, since then, there have been 3 published manuals, the latest, has no index. It is deliberately written to make it likely you'll need a researcher to find what you're looking for. And when you finally find it, they'll tell you it's changed.

It should be no surprise that every change has benefited the company, at our expense. Line haul vs. sub service; bereavement, pto accumulation, drive cam discipline, disability benefits and on and on and on. We NEED a damned contract!
 
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Bloodwidow said:
So I’m going out on a limb and saying that you are condoning all speeding and aggressive driving? The reason for the policy is because some bad apples. I bet guys on linehaul have seen XPO drivers doing 70 mph in 55 and below zones, following to close at 70, and the big one, driving 70 in rain/snow. So how is the company to stop this behavior?
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sucker666 said:
I’m 100% against speeding. As a matter of fact I don’t think the trucks should be set to 70 . A 65 mph limit should give a good buffer in a 70 mph zone and assure speeding is kept to a minimum. It seems this policy came into effect with the trucks being turn up.
How did we ever get along before this technology ?
If the technology is going to be in place then we need some assurances that it won’t be abused . Nothing better than it spelled out in a contractual agreement as guidelines as to how disapline is applied. As it stands now the company can change a policy at any time they want . If you don’t believe it go to the policy and procedures and read the first page.
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Hey Bloodwidow do you see what he is doing here. Sucker is putting the blame on the company and not the one sitting behind the wheel. Why is that? Who is to blame for this new policy sure in hell is not the company. You get one guess, need a hint........

Let me say I was against having the trucks turned up. I just wanted the torque and HP turn up and that's it. I knew what was going to happen when this was done. Now it's not even been a year and look what has come down the pike or should I say Mass Pike. Here is the real kick in the azz you have to be doing 75+ for 10sec before the cam records in a 65mph zone. Man I don't even trust some of these truck at 65mph.
 
toilet paper said:
At UPGF a few of our new tractors have outward facing cameras NOTHING on the driver. Also our contract clearly states we cant be disciplined based solely on electronic data. Your contract can be different it's all in the negotiations.
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Just let me know how that works out in court. Yes the company can't slap you on hand but I am sure they are keeping a record of it. Your contract don't mean ::shit:: in a court of law when a driver is doing 65 in a 55 and someone is killed
 
sucker666 said:
I would ours would tell us that this doesn’t apply to our barn. (Which it doesn’t ). If it did he probably tell us to slow down.
Electronic surveillance is only going to expand in the coming years. ( more ways to fire you ) that’s why now more then ever you need representation . These type of things can be bargained at the table too make sure it doesn’t become oppressive to your work environment.
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I read an old thread on some board about Con-way drivers bitch to the union drivers about Drive cams being put in the truck. The union drivers said if I remember right "it's there truck there is nothing that can be done about it". I wish I could find it.
Why no big union push then?
 
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Hollywoodz said:
Yeah, I love the guys paying $100 a week in premiums for garbage insurance and fail to see the connection, as well.
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Yup that's it get you Teamcare. The vote for the Democrats like the union whats you to. Then lose Teamcare because the ones you think are you savors and support the unions just votes in Medicare for All or call it for what it is Single Payer and watch as all other health insurance is now illegal. Remember this famous quote "If you like you health plan you can keep it. That won the Lie of The Year for 2013. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ar-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/
 
Fly-by-night said:
Hey Bloodwidow do you see what he is doing here. Sucker is putting the blame on the company and not the one sitting behind the wheel. Why is that? Who is to blame for this new policy sure in hell is not the company. You get one guess, need a hint........

Let me say I was against having the trucks turned up. I just wanted the torque and HP turn up and that's it. I knew what was going to happen when this was done. Now it's not even been a year and look what has come down the pike or should I say Mass Pike. Here is the real kick in the azz you have to be doing 75+ for 10sec before the cam records in a 65mph zone. Man I don't even trust some of these truck at 65mph.
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You are right sir. On both accounts.
 
Even Mickey Mouse is getting screwed over by the Teamsters.
Looks like Hoffa is down there trying to quell the rebellion
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/article228722774.html
https://laborunionreport.com/2019/04/02/this-is-goofy-mickey-mouse-is-mad-at-the-teamsters/
Some Highlights:
"Among the complaints was that Local 385 leaders made a deal with Disney World officials to cut out 20 or so workers from being covered by the union."
"Local 385's leaders had created false records and committed embezzlement and obstruction."
"Ralph Singer, a truck driver at Disney and Local 385 member, who has been a vocal opponent of the union local's leadership. It just took way too long to get there."
 
Fly-by-night said:
Go read there Thread: https://www.truckingboards.com/bb/threads/coming-to-a-truck-near-you.90529/
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Don't worry if and when you get a contract I sure all the camera stuff will be in there. Just like ABF had any protection on driver facing cams written out of there contract.
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And can not restrict the employer from putting driver facing cams in their tractors it on my has contractual restrictions on how it can be used in disapline . I have talked to the drivers at our barn an Xpo refuses to negotiate on any disapline or how it applies with our inward cameras.
 
Fly-by-night said:
Just let me know how that works out in court. Yes the company can't slap you on hand but I am sure they are keeping a record of it. Your contract don't mean :::shit::: in a court of law when a driver is doing 65 in a 55 and someone is killed
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He’s clearly talking about company related disapline. What happens in a court of law is outside the realm of a union contract . I think your misconstruing his point. As it stands now you have no protection from company disapline if the system is abused .
 
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