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icuicp said:
I can't imagine why a decent driver would want to go into management with the way things are now , but having a driver become an FOS at their home terminal happens ( and it's the least of the things you have to worry about )

At this point , I just hope the new people have common sense. Honestly. XPO is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Agreed. Unless he lost his cdl and wanted to stay with the company for some reason. The micro managing is obscene now.
 
icuicp said:
I can't imagine why a decent driver would want to go into management with the way things are now , but having a driver become an FOS at their home terminal happens ( and it's the least of the things you have to worry about )

At this point , I just hope the new people have common sense. Honestly. XPO is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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I have always thought the same thing. For one the closer you are to the freight the safer you job is. Two it a pay cut with more headaches. I think starting FOS pay is somewhere between 50 and 60K per year. At my hourly rate on straight time 40 per week it's almost 62K
 
sucker666 said:
Run and gun policy. They make it up as they go along and modify it to suit their need at the moment. The policy book is not written in stone and says that if you read it. It’s kinda of a guideline but not really.
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It drives me nuts when people site the handbook like quoting the bible. That handbook ain't worth a ::shit::. It don't actually have anything to do with trucking or even this employment. It was written by some college educated asshat, that thinks we are all a bunch of trash, to be a tool to attack and manipulate the employees. They don't follow it unless it's convenient at the time or supports their story somehow. They pick and choose. Always have. It's not an instruction on what to do for employee. It's a way to empower management with excuses or reasons to discipline and eliminate employees. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong. And it never did. Like you say, it's a guideline, but not really. Exactly, it's not intended to be. These " people " have zero respect for us. None.
 
The magician said:
Just a quick question to my feiiow xpo associates 8 months ago we had a driver that was running the inbound for over 2 years. My terminal decided they needed to hire an fos for the morning he suggested that make him the fos. He was told by the regional mgr that company policy dictated that he couldn't do that in order to become an fos he would have to go to xcv to become an fos.he left xpo in Feb just for that reason. Took a morning management position elsewhere. Now we are looking for another fos and they gave it to a different driver from xrn. What happened to company policy
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We have had several. We can't keep or hire management any better than drivers or dockhands. So we promote from within. Anyone dumb enough to want the job can have it. And they don't seem to keep it very long. They get some management experience and then start looking into other situations and it's not long before they get an offer and are gone. The cycle repeats.
 
sucker666 said:
That is the problem in a nutshell... and as the workforce downgrades in quality it further deteriorates. I wish it were different but it’s the way it is.
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Not a problem in their eyes. They don't want us here. They want to out source everything. The dock. Line haul. The peddle runs. The whole entire thing. Robots and machines where ever possible. And independent contractors where a human must be present. It genuinely pisses these people off that any of us are still here.
 
highspeeds said:
It drives me nuts when people site the handbook like quoting the bible. That handbook ain't worth a :::shit:::. It don't actually have anything to do with trucking or even this employment. It was written by some college educated asshat, that thinks we are all a bunch of trash, to be a tool to attack and manipulate the employees. They don't follow it unless it's convenient at the time or supports their story somehow. They pick and choose. Always have. It's not an instruction on what to do for employee. It's a way to empower management with excuses or reasons to discipline and eliminate employees. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong. And it never did. Like you say, it's a guideline, but not really. Exactly, it's not intended to be. These " people " have zero respect for us. None.
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They tell you right in Section 1, under General Provisions, that the entire Hand Book is irrelevant. They tell you the entire volume is unilateral rather than contractual and their "policies" can be changed at any time, for any reason, with or without notice to you. In addition, if you look at the new (March 1, 2019 ) version, there is no index and it is virtually impossible to find what you're looking for without reading the thing from cover to cover. And if you find what you're looking for, it's really only just a suggestion.
 
upnorth said:
It only makes sense. Your a driver for 10 years, then you become a fos. Giving your buddies the gravy, and :::shit::: detail to the ones you don’t like.
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Your buddies all have 10 or more years in too, and deserve that gravy. But they give it to all the new guys that can't get anything done instead. So what actually happens, is that you let your buddies change or alter their route to make it possible to get it done. Which is actually a huge benefit for the company. Probably ever more than it is for the new fos and his buddies.
 
icuicp said:
I can't imagine why a decent driver would want to go into management with the way things are now , but having a driver become an FOS at their home terminal happens ( and it's the least of the things you have to worry about )

At this point , I just hope the new people have common sense. Honestly. XPO is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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With the way things are going, guys want out of driving all together. We have had quite a few. Just give up on this " career ".
 
highspeeds said:
Not a problem in their eyes. They don't want us here. They want to out source everything. The dock. Line haul. The peddle runs. The whole entire thing. Robots and machines where ever possible. And independent contractors where a human must be present. It genuinely pisses these people off that any of us are still here.
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I was told yesterday that XPO sold our building and are now leasing it. It was a old CF terminal they have owned since CCX started
 
They tell us how we should be so happy to make $28 an hour. Which is fine. But people are making well over $20 an hour to drive a forklift. What's the point ? This job is already so dangerous. And they have abandoned safety. Completely. Is it worth it ?
 
boomer55 said:
I was told yesterday that XPO sold our building and are now leasing it. It was a old CF terminal they have owned since CCX started
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Interesting. I wonder to who ? And what is the benefit ? And how many terminals did they do that with ? When XPO bought us they closed several leased terminals for financial reasons. Of course, that was before this whole thing imploded.
 
highspeeds said:
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He has sure done this. Installed a culture that accepts change. People that work here are dreaming about and fantasizing about change. And they are wanting it and looking forward to it. And then when they go work somewhere else with another company. We find them on social media telling us all about how stupid we are to still be here.
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This man is so full of ::shit::...it's amazing. The change he's fantasizing about is the Ceva model. 3PL, asset light company. No benefits, no disability insurance, no equipment maintenance, no PTO liabilities, no fuel costs...no nothing. Line Haul eliminated by sub service carriers, dock positions filled by employment agencies and P & D runs carried out by lease purchase operators. For younger guys, I'll suggest getting out while you still can. For senior guys, I don't care how corrupt you believe the Teamsters may be...a union contract will save your job. The handwriting is on the wall. Do something!
 
Hollywoodz said:
This man is so full of :::shit:::...it's amazing. The change he's fantasizing about is the Ceva model. 3PL, asset light company. No benefits, no disability insurance, no equipment maintenance, no PTO liabilities, no fuel costs...no nothing. Line Haul eliminated by sub service carriers, dock positions filled by employment agencies and P & D runs carried out by lease purchase operators. For younger guys, I'll suggest getting out while you still can. For senior guys, I don't care how corrupt you believe the Teamsters may be...a union contract will save your job. The handwriting is on the wall. Do something!
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Around here the something they are doing is the same something all the hirer ups in management have been doing. Jumping ship.
 
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