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The argument of at will employment is that if a company just up and fired you it couldn’t get any employees. For a company to get a workforce it would have to show cause for termination of employment.
 
The argument of at will employment is that if a company just up and fired you it couldn’t get any employees. For a company to get a workforce it would have to show cause for termination of employment.

Not sure what you're saying either, however, At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability. Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences.

Notice how I can leave and they can fire me, but there is no provision for me to keep my job. That's what a union is for!
 
You're just not getting it. He needs you to do it all for him or it will never get done. So, it's your fault. Not his.
Your way off the mark. You need to look into it more to understand. I know the man and he has invested more time and energy at great risk to his employment to try to make things better for all of us. If you spent anytime with him you would not have made that statement.
The point he is making is the the basic premise of unionization. Strength in numbers.
7 barns negotiating individually and separate is a very difficult thing . Now a couple dozen terminals negotiating has more leverage. It’s as simple as that . Yes ,we understand everyone waiting to see what a few terminals get is what your waiting for and understand if it’s better than what you have currently then you’ll jump in maybe. To suggest that one man doesn’t or is not negotiating hard enough simply is ludicrous and shows how a lack of knowledge. The company understands this also . Hence the long drawn out negotiating process ,hoping that guys will give up .

Nobody made the decision to vote union and took it lightly. Nobody that I know voted just so they could be union out of some desire to be union or bust. Most of us worked many years non union and would have continued to do so by choice had the ass ****** not had happened. This company made a conscious decision at some point to push it to the limit of what drivers would tolerate. They brought it upon themselves and have not made a single improvement to make it better despite some terminals organizing. If they truly cared and wanted to make the union disappear then they would make things right. The problem is they could care less. Greed drove them to this and still drives them. The best they can do is offer you hotdogs.
Every single one of the near dozen upper level management that came to our facility in the run up to our vote tried to convince us that nothing has changed and things would get better, just eat a hot dog and you’ll see. Well, where are all these guys now ? Gone ! Everyone one of them. Things got no better and they all left either on there own or were shown the door. That’s how much better it got.
 
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You did not lose your job automatically if you flipped a trailer back in the day . I know of 3 drivers that did so and all but one of them is still with the company. The that is no longer here just left on his own recently by his own choice year afterwards . One of them almost lost his job due to the high dollar amount of the freight supposedly damaged but investigated on his own and found out all the freight delivered clear ( no damage) went to Berg with it and kept his job. Had he not investigated on his own he would have been gone . Their far less ways to get fired back in 91 then there is today.
I was told this by my local safety guy when I was hired. I heard of a few that did lose there job due to flipping sets. XPH had a driver drop his kite on the road right outside the XMI gate. The he pulled over unhooked the air line to the dolly and drove on. You could see the skid marks on the road. When they call him he was 50miles down the road. Guess what he didn't get fired for that.
 
No, he shouldn't keep his job. He should be fired. Now, can you tell me the difference between this guy and the guy in Orlando?
Ok now you show me the guy in Orlando personal file. We have had guys caught with there phone in hand and are still working. Sound to me this guy had more in his file then he is will to tell us about
 
Not sure what you're saying here. I feel confident in saying that in the current business climate, EVERYONE NEEDS A UNION. And the trend towards unionization is growing daily. Baby steps to be sure, but it's moving in the right direction.

It's one thing to demand something that the company doesn't have to give. No union can get something that isn't there. However, many trucking companies and XPO in particular, are making obscene profits. Enough profit to offer every employee a decent health care policy and modest increases in other areas of compensation. No problem spending millions on union busters in order to avoid paying us what we are worth. That seems acceptable. No problem with exorbitant executive compensation and shareholder value. That's OK too!

And I'm frustrated by people who say we can't do anything about it because they make all the rules. That's exactly the point. When you are unionized, you get to have a say in the establishment of some of those rules and you have an even bigger say in how they are enforced.

This Entire country is wholly dependent on us to bring them all the necessities of life. Almost EVERYTHING comes on on of our trucks. What would happen if one day, by design, we could reach half the truckers in this country and in one big bold statement announce : "You won't get what you need, until we get what we need." Try to realize the power we have.
You did not lose your job automatically if you flipped a trailer back in the day . I know of 3 drivers that did so and all but one of them is still with the company. The that is no longer here just left on his own recently by his own choice year afterwards . One of them almost lost his job due to the high dollar amount of the freight supposedly damaged but investigated on his own and found out all the freight delivered clear ( no damage) went to Berg with it and kept his job. Had he not investigated on his own he would have been gone . Their far less ways to get fired back in 91 then there is today.
You all need to go home put bars on you window, barricade you doors and never go outside again because it can be a scary place out there. I never seen in my life people sooooo scared of losing there job. It must really suck for you guys to getup and go to work every day.
 
That doesn’t suite his individual needs. He is a star employee that knows all the history of this company in his short duration here. Anything they want to do is good with him . Hell, he would pay to work here if that’s what it takes. Stop asking for what your worth and just take what they give you . Why are you so demanding, if you don’t like it go somewhere else. Your very ungrateful. There’s guys here making 100, 000 working 70 hours a week what’s the problem? Talk about ungreatful.
What something is worth is what someone is will to pay for it. You can have a value place on labor or and item but in the end it what someone is will to pay set it real worth.
The problem with the union is the don't vote with there feet and/or wallets. Go look in your parking lot have many non-union made cars are in the lot, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Volkswagen. How many go to Wal-mart, target, and hell I bet most even have a amazon account instead of the local store or the one that warehouse is unions. I know people that hate Wal-mart and guess what they don't shop there at all. I don't shop at Dick's Sporting Goods due to there stand on the 2A and at time it cost me more. It may be hard to believe I took a pay cut to come here but this job had one main thing I was looking for. We this company no long fill my need or I find something better I gone and won't even look back.
 
Your way off the mark. You need to look into it more to understand. I know the man and he has invested more time and energy at great risk to his employment to try to make things better for all of us. If you spent anytime with him you would not have made that statement.
The point he is making is the the basic premise of unionization. Strength in numbers.
7 barns negotiating individually and separate is a very difficult thing . Now a couple dozen terminals negotiating has more leverage. It’s as simple as that . Yes ,we understand everyone waiting to see what a few terminals get is what your waiting for and understand if it’s better than what you have currently then you’ll jump in maybe. To suggest that one man doesn’t or is not negotiating hard enough simply is ludicrous and shows how a lack of knowledge. The company understands this also . Hence the long drawn out negotiating process ,hoping that guys will give up .

Nobody made the decision to vote union and took it lightly. Nobody that I know voted just so they could be union out of some desire to be union or bust. Most of us worked many years non union and would have continued to do so by choice had the ass ****** not had happened. This company made a conscious decision at some point to push it to the limit of what drivers would tolerate. They brought it upon themselves and have not made a single improvement to make it better despite some terminals organizing. If they truly cared and wanted to make the union disappear then they would make things right. The problem is they could care less. Greed drove them to this and still drives them. The best they can do is offer you hotdogs.
Every single one of the near dozen upper level management that came to our facility in the run up to our vote tried to convince us that nothing has changed and things would get better, just eat a hot dog and you’ll see. Well, where are all these guys now ? Gone ! Everyone one of them. Things got no better and they all left either on there own or were shown the door. That’s how much better it got.
But yet when you ask the union, as someone did on one of those conference calls, What you game plan? what you long term goals? no answer was given. Just talked down to for not voting the union in.
 
Ok now you show me the guy in Orlando personal file. We have had guys caught with there phone in hand and are still working. Sound to me this guy had more in his file then he is will to tell us about
We have a guy at my barn who has two cell phone violations, should be three put one dropped right as he got third/second. Still has his job. Oh and he is a pro union guy. So he should have a target on his back.
 
But yet when you ask the union, as someone did on one of those conference calls, What you game plan? what you long term goals? no answer was given. Just talked down to for not voting the union in.
I have been on all those calls and never heard anyone talked done too. Making things better for the employees and thus attracting a better grade driver making it a winning combination is the goal .
 
I have been on all those calls and never heard anyone talked done too. Making things better for the employees and thus attracting a better grade driver making it a winning combination is the goal .
Think what you want I know what I and other have heard. It took just one of those calls that canned any chance of a vote at my barn.
 
What something is worth is what someone is will to pay for it. You can have a value place on labor or and item but in the end it what someone is will to pay set it real worth.
The problem with the union is the don't vote with there feet and/or wallets. Go look in your parking lot have many non-union made cars are in the lot, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Volkswagen. How many go to Wal-mart, target, and hell I bet most even have a amazon account instead of the local store or the one that warehouse is unions. I know people that hate Wal-mart and guess what they don't shop there at all. I don't shop at Dick's Sporting Goods due to there stand on the 2A and at time it cost me more. It may be hard to believe I took a pay cut to come here but this job had one main thing I was looking for. We this company no long fill my need or I find something better I gone and won't even look back.
We live in a small world even the domestic made care contain many imported parts . I’m not sure of your point , it would be very hard too if not impossible to by 100% American made let alone all union made.
 
Think what you want I know what I and other have heard. It took just one of those calls that canned any chance of a vote at my barn.
Sorry to hear that . Perception is an expectation could be the problem. You can pm me anytime for a fair honest answer to your questions
 
You all need to go home put bars on you window, barricade you doors and never go outside again because it can be a scary place out there. I never seen in my life people sooooo scared of losing there job. It must really suck for you guys to getup and go to work every day.
Please now your trying to push an irrational thought process on to something that doesn’t deserve that. Do what you want , but don’t try to construe something that isn’t on me.
 
We live in a small world even the domestic made care contain many imported parts . I’m not sure of your point , it would be very hard too if not impossible to by 100% American made let alone all union made.
True but Nissan, VW and Toyota are made in the USA all non-union. both Nissan and VW voted down the UAW. Hell in 2009 Toyota closed it only union plant in the US and move it's production to Canada, Japan, and other US plants. I don't understand have you are missing my point. The union push the whole union thing but yet don't support another union manufacturer, store, and contractor. Yes in some areas they are none or far and few between. Yet in my area they drive past a grocery store that has a union run warehouse to go to the Wal-mart or Target and buy there grocery. While driving there non-union made vehicle. That's what I talking about they don't support there own.
 
Please now your trying to push an irrational thought process on to something that doesn’t deserve that. Do what you want , but don’t try to construe something that isn’t on me.
Well you guys are pushing the fear that you can lose you job just because they feel like it. We all know what an AT will employment is. Any one that I know that lost there job was impart to there action and there alone. This is the standard fear mongering. The same thing you pro guys bitch about the company using.
 
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