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Hollywoodz said:
My home is a far more personal space than my country, wouldn't you agree?
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No... sure my house is my personal space and so in my country to me. I am expected to follow the laws of the land and when people illegally cross the boarder, over stay there visa they are law breakers and need to be deported. I have traveled all over the world in my young day and lived in a foreign country for 2yrs. Lots of those counrties had no problem kicking you ass out or not letting you in. So we here in the US are being to nice
 
Fly-by-night said:
so you know how hard BJ worked in the past???
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No. I don't. I'm guessing few people do. I was using him as an example.

I've never got a job from a poor person...Can you have a rich person without other people?

The answer is no , you can't.

It sounds good saying rich people give out jobs but remember , the regular people make rich people rich.
 
Hollywoodz said:
In fact, GM and Chrysler did repay their loans per conditions of the TARP program. The caveat is that the federal government took stock and part ownership of both companies as part of the bailout. When they sold the stock back to repay the debt, there was a 10 billion dollar shortfall in the purchase price of the stock. So, your post is accurate in the sense that the bailout did cost taxpayers 10 billion dollars. Do you think it would have been better to let those companies fail and destroy the American Auto market? How much would it have cost the taxpayers then?

I don't think it's fair to punish pension recipients for the mismanagement of the fund, especially if they had no say in the appointment of the managers.

Maybe we should have let the banks fail? That's what Iceland did? I know they sent multiple bank executives to jail but I don't know how they resolved the crisis. I do know their economy rebounded very well.
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I don't believe that allowing GM and Chrysler to fail would have as you put it, "destroy the American Auto market." The market would have still existed and other car companies like Honda and Toyota would have stepped up production to satisfy whatever shortfall was left by the other two car companies going bye bye. I think the auto and bank bailouts were mistakes as is the Butch Lewis bill, should it ever be enacted. I'm a firm believer that the best way to correct economic imbalances is through market forces and not governments, ie Iceland's post recession economy.
 
ScotchNeat said:
I don't believe that allowing GM and Chrysler to fail would have as you put it, "destroy the American Auto market." The market would have still existed and other car companies like Honda and Toyota would have stepped up production to satisfy whatever shortfall was left by the other two car companies going bye bye. I think the auto and bank bailouts were mistakes as is the Butch Lewis bill, should it ever be enacted. I'm a firm believer that the best way to correct economic imbalances is through market forces and not governments, ie Iceland's post recession economy.
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Considering I used the Iceland example, I can't argue. But, something inside me is screaming there's a difference between banks, auto makers and pension funds. If I figure out what it is, I'll post it.
 
ScotchNeat said:
I think the auto and bank bailouts were mistakes
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They auto bailouts worked ,debt was repaid and thousands of workers still have jobs building quality products. Seems like a win win to me.
The bank bailouts worked also but a lot of people should have gone to jail over that .

The alternative to those bailouts would have been disastrous. Whether we like it or not they worked and put us back on track to a sound economy since 2009.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Back to union business. Here's a question to all you anti union people. If Hoffa lost the next election for Teamsters president, would it change your opinion about the organization?
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Yes and maybe. Hoffa out would help, but it would depend on the replacement. Is it another old codger that just wants to sit back and wait for his checks to arrive or is it someone with zeal who is willing to work hard to recruit and grow unions?
 
sucker666 said:
They auto bailouts worked ,debt was repaid and thousands of workers still have jobs building quality products. Seems like a win win to me.
The bank bailouts worked also but a lot of people should have gone to jail over that .

The alternative to those bailouts would have been disastrous. Whether we like it or not they worked and put us back on track to a sound economy since 2009.
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"The bank bailouts worked also but a lot of people should have gone to jail over that"

President Obama's biggest mistake. By not going after and prosecuting those that were responsible for the financial crisis , it furthered the narrative that white collar crime is different and not as serious as crime that police fight every day on the streets and in your neighborhood.
 
icuicp said:
"The bank bailouts worked also but a lot of people should have gone to jail over that"

President Obama's biggest mistake. By not going after and prosecuting those that were responsible for the financial crisis , it furthered the narrative that white collar crime is different and not as serious as crime that police fight every day on the streets and in your neighborhood.
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I agree
 
This is a must read for all the Trump supporting union/Teamsters bashers Be sure you read the entire article:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...efits-industry-struggles-under-trump-n1044576

Is ok for Trump and McConnell to turn their backs on workers who were key to their elections? This is a prime example of how these guys operate and why their no good fo the workers.
Everything to help the mine owners but ::shit:: on their workers.
 
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sucker666 said:
This is a must read for all the Trump supporting union/Teamsters bashers Be sure you read the entire article:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...efits-industry-struggles-under-trump-n1044576

Is ok for Trump and McConnell to turn their backs on workers who were key to their elections? This is a prime example of how these guys operate and why their no good fo the workers.
Everything to help the mine owners but :::shit::: on their workers.
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For everyone else go to the Washington D.C thread to read some of the replies
https://www.truckingboards.com/bb/threads/coal-worker-struggle.92595/
 
sucker666 said:
This is a must read for all the Trump supporting union/Teamsters bashers Be sure you read the entire article:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...efits-industry-struggles-under-trump-n1044576

Is ok for Trump and McConnell to turn their backs on workers who were key to their elections? This is a prime example of how these guys operate and why their no good fo the workers.
Everything to help the mine owners but :::shit::: on their workers.
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This just didn't happen in the last 2yrs. What did Obozo do for them????? Oh wait he was with Killary and wanted to close them down. Company can't pay into a pension when the Govt closes you down
 
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Fly-by-night said:
This just didn't happen in the last 2yrs. What did Obozo do for them????? Oh wait he was with Killary and wanted to close them down. Company pay into a pension when the Govt closes you down
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He says he’s for workers than it should be a no brannier to fix it. If he’s the champion of the worker than let’s see it
 
Fly-by-night said:
But you say the Democrats are for the working man and the middle class. So are they are aren't they????? If they were they would have fixed this the 8yrs Obozo was in office..... Remember he had 8yrs.....
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Under those 8 yrs Republicans controlled the senate they would block anything Obama would put through
 
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