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I just purchased a 17 tacoma & I also cruise every so often (won’t fly) on vacation this week, stopping by Dover Downs for a night to make a donation. Then off to Delaware till Wednesday for a little R&R....
Here's hoping you have a great time. I'm raising a Corona light to you. Drive safe, return safe.
 
By the way,.....if you grip a steering wheel,...or ever handled a two-wheeler, towmotor, Johnson bar, or pallet jack.......We are on the same Team,....Union or not......

The Union guys are trying to keep First Amendment rights and Collective Bargaining rights alive,....and available to the non-Union guys,...if they wish to take advantage of those Rights......

The real Enemy,.....is those who want your Right of Free Speech, and Freedom of Association,...to end on company property when you punch that time clock.......

They understand that real strength,...is strength in numbers,.......so there is a Battle for the Hearts and Minds of all the Laboring people out there......

Many of whom aren't aware of any such battle........
wow..the old "Johnson Bar"...we used to call it a "jaw-breaker"..remember the old days of having about 30 dock carts and shrink wrap...rollers to put all the topping freight on? Heck, unless it is perfectly cubed, palletized freight, no one much wants it anymore? Wow, the jaw breaker.. and the "drag line" in some of the break bulks..nowadays, I guess the "drag line" has a whole new meaning?
(Please don't attack me on that one..no political incorrectness implied!
 
wow..the old "Johnson Bar"...we used to call it a "jaw-breaker"..remember the old days of having about 30 dock carts and shrink wrap...rollers to put all the topping freight on? Heck, unless it is perfectly cubed, palletized freight, no one much wants it anymore? Wow, the jaw breaker.. and the "drag line" in some of the break bulks..nowadays, I guess the "drag line" has a whole new meaning?
(Please don't attack me on that one..no political incorrectness implied!
I used to deliver into an old Roadway Breakbulk, it's a used truck parts company now. You can still see the remanents of the dragline. Even some carts still being used by them (not on line). I asked the guy if they knew what that was. None of them knew and they thought I was joking when I explained what it was and how it worked. I also remember the Carlisle Pa CFCC break had a bad fire one time when a drum of flammable liquid ruptured and spread very quickly . They said the fact that it got into the dragline track contributed to the speed and intensity with which it spread. The Johnson bars were cool, I learned how to move large bulky things from the older hands you never thougght you'd be able to move by yourself , rolls of carpet, bundles of steel etc. at CFCC Toledo Break an average shift was like 15-30 guys and like only 15 motors to use. Lots of cart and hand truck freight. The motors were still diesel too
 
I used to deliver into an old Roadway Breakbulk, it's a used truck parts company now. You can still see the remanents of the dragline. Even some carts still being used by them (not on line). I asked the guy if they knew what that was. None of them knew and they thought I was joking when I explained what it was and how it worked. I also remember the Carlisle Pa CFCC break had a bad fire one time when a drum of flammable liquid ruptured and spread very quickly . They said the fact that it got into the dragline track contributed to the speed and intensity with which it spread. The Johnson bars were cool, I learned how to move large bulky things from the older hands you never thougght you'd be able to move by yourself , rolls of carpet, bundles of steel etc. at CFCC Toledo Break an average shift was like 15-30 guys and like only 15 motors to use. Lots of cart and hand truck freight. The motors were still diesel too
PTL-145 used to be an old Garrett Freight terminal. There’s some ‘railing’ in the concrete on the dock. I wonder if that’s what it was part of.
 
wow..the old "Johnson Bar"...we used to call it a "jaw-breaker"..remember the old days of having about 30 dock carts and shrink wrap...rollers to put all the topping freight on? Heck, unless it is perfectly cubed, palletized freight, no one much wants it anymore? Wow, the jaw breaker.. and the "drag line" in some of the break bulks..nowadays, I guess the "drag line" has a whole new meaning?
(Please don't attack me on that one..no political incorrectness implied!
The beloved drag line, I'm so glad I will never have to pull another cart off it. I hope to never see the track again. After 35 years I think I have finally stopped having post traumatic flashbacks from just thinking about working at a dock with a drag line.
 
Never seen one in action but I bet it’s a drag! Had to say it! Lol
shame on you (LOL!)...I guess the "drag" line could be interpreted as taking another "Drag" on a cigarette or medical marijuana, or a show down at the All Boys Club???
 
Sorry Ted CFCC never had diesel lifts,had gas power at DURA and then had propane at Angola, gas is what caused the fire on Dura in "82 while refueling a motor,switched to propane shortly after that.
I may be wrong about diesel, but Angola Road was not propane when I was there . There was one guy per shift that just swapped motors for the first hour or so. Drive them down the ramp out to the garage and used a pump to fill them. Popular job in the nice weather. The senior guy in the shift usually did it. Went to the low man when weather was crappy. They may have switched to propane after I left, but 87, 88, 89 and first 1/2 of 90 they were definetly topped off at a fuel pump by the garage. I'm sure it was diesel
 
The old Consolidated Freightways terminal in Harmarville, Pa. had a dragline,....they quit using it after splitting the terminal in half,...Motor Freight Express was the other half.
Terminal is Ward's now.....

Dragline track was a great place to trip,.....or to catch a cart wheel loosely loaded with light boxes,...so you could dump them all over the dock........or to bobble the 55 gal drum two-wheeler......

None of which....let me be clear......never happened to me......either at CF or MFX.....
 
I may be wrong about diesel, but Angola Road was not propane when I was there . There was one guy per shift that just swapped motors for the first hour or so. Drive them down the ramp out to the garage and used a pump to fill them. Popular job in the nice weather. The senior guy in the shift usually did it. Went to the low man when weather was crappy. They may have switched to propane after I left, but 87, 88, 89 and first 1/2 of 90 they were definetly topped off at a fuel pump by the garage. I'm sure it was diesel
Yep the pump out front of the shop was gas , all the diesel pumps were inside the safetylanes at the far end of the shop away from the dock
 
Yep the pump out front of the shop was gas , all the diesel pumps were inside the safetylanes at the far end of the shop away from the dock
Well then, I stand corrected on the Diesel part, but I knew I never swung a propane can at CFCC or CF. My short stint at CF was from where I conflated the Diesel motors. They used to send a guy down to a local automated fueling station, one of the first ones I had ever seen. It was Pacific Pride if I remember correctly . Each vehicle had a small plastic card with holes punched in them. The forklifts were fueled off one card via 5 gallon cans. A guy just above me got fired for using the card to steal fuel for his VW Diesel Rabbit. He'd take the cans down in the back of his Rabbit, the station was only a short way from the terminal, and fill the cans then throw some into his car's tank.
 
Well then, I stand corrected on the Diesel part, but I knew I never swung a propane can at CFCC or CF. My short stint at CF was from where I conflated the Diesel motors. They used to send a guy down to a local automated fueling station, one of the first ones I had ever seen. It was Pacific Pride if I remember correctly . Each vehicle had a small plastic card with holes punched in them. The forklifts were fueled off one card via 5 gallon cans. A guy just above me got fired for using the card to steal fuel for his VW Diesel Rabbit. He'd take the cans down in the back of his Rabbit, the station was only a short way from the terminal, and fill the cans then throw some into his car's tank.
It’s amazing how many guys **** up a good job for doing stupid ::shit:: like that
 
It’s amazing how many guys :censored: up a good job for doing stupid :::shit::: like that
Yeah it was crazy, he was young, had inherited a nice farm house from grandparents, no wife no kids, no debts we knew of. It was either a cleptomaniac type thing or he had some sort of gambling or drug problem none of us knew about it. Hard worker, always on time, it was weird.
 
Thank you, Brother. That pretty much explains our perspectives......




........And that pretty much proves my point about the “average” investor......
The amount of misinformation, rumor , and distrust.......plays right into the hands of people who control the 401(k)’s.....

The amount of financial savvy you have......does not matter with a defined-benefit pension......Only the amount of time....

Or how badly your fund has been destroyed by those same Wall Street shysters... if you’re unfortunate enough to be in Central States. Wonder how confident those average Joes feel about their retirement?
 
Or how badly your fund has been destroyed by those same Wall Street shysters... if you’re unfortunate enough to be in Central States. Wonder how confident those average Joes feel about their retirement?

Wall Street shysters? I'm no financial wizard by any means, but my own personal investments in "Wall Street" have done much better than what my pension funds have provided me.
 
You voted your pension away, so I hope your personal investments do well....
Let’s see if I can figure this out, 1 active paying in for every 4 retired. Even at full rate there is no way that the fund will survive. So explain to us where we got to vote on pension, turn down contract, lose even more customer, then lose more employees paying in to the fund. That sounds like a good idea to me. People said that if you invested in 401 k that Teamsters would take your money and use that against us in contract negotiations quoting what employees have saved to try and sell 401 k verses pension.
Just wait boys and girls there is another company fixing to get out of the fund.
 
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