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Fly-by-night said:
So what does this mean then...post #8827"I am referring to some bottom to mid level employees who use other than being hard working alone to gain what senior employees rightfully get ."
Since the only thing your seniority get yous is you JSP and vacation. So what did they get that they should haven't gotten over the seniority guys...... Please tell
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The JSP only deals with start times in the city selection process. Our work assignments are solely dictated by management. That is where the favoritism runs rampant. I know your a linehaul driver so you may not know that part of it
 
sucker666 said:
The JSP only deals with start times in the city selection process. Our work assignments are solely dictated by management. That is where the favoritism runs rampant. I know your a linehaul driver so you may not know that part of it
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Yes I worked city before going on LH. How is it favoritism? it was the policy before you voted so until and if it is negotiated on it will stay that way. You have said many times that the union is not here to tell them how to run the company. So bid your start time, and take your work assignment as they are given out. If you want to bid a run, bid LH next year there no favoritism out here. It's spelled out really clear.
 
Fly-by-night said:
You know that is a double edge sword. Some of the long tenured employees might be over paid? I all for a review. lets see were everyone stands. At my barn we have some former union drivers and some of them laziest one we have. There is another one that walks around and has said on many occasion " I been here XX years and they owe me" "I've been here XX years and I deserve that run/truck/forklift." He's been in the TM office so many time he keeps tissue on his desk for him. He also a former CF employee
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I hear ya, fly. I spent 25 years in the Teamsters Union, and there are INDEED some lazy-asses. Equally, I’ve seen the same at non-union places. I don’t think it matters if you’re under a union banner to ‘qualify’ as being lazy, it’s just some bad work habits that have gone unchecked for these guys.

Two examples that I came across in my 25 years that really stick out (both at Union shops)....While working at Roadway years ago, we had a guy that thought he didn’t need to dock his trailer (full of OB freight) when he got in from his run...”let one of those junior guys (me) do it...(followed by sarcastic laughter)”. So, one evening, I left it out in the yard, with the freight on it. Had a ‘conversation’ with the TM the next day about why/how it got left in the yard. The dude got his ass paddled pretty good. Next, at ABF, we had a guy that when he reached the top spot, gave himself all the gravy runs, and long-distance U-Pack drops/picks that seemed to take all day. When questioned...”hey, I’m the top guy!” Well, okay...fair enough, right? Wrong.

I will say though, I’ve worked with a few ‘bad apples’ but the bulk of those I’ve worked with have been good, hard-working fellows that I’ve learned a lot from. Good people leave behind legacies for others to take up.
 
sucker666 said:
The JSP only deals with start times in the city selection process. Our work assignments are solely dictated by management. That is where the favoritism runs rampant. I know your a linehaul driver so you may not know that part of it
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I don't know about you, but before I filled out my first city bid sheet I was told by HR that I am bidding on a start time only which meant that I would run where they needed me to run at that designated start time. Every city run is unique with it's own traffic patterns, street and intersection setups, docks vs. no docks, stem times, etc....In my time as a city driver I see routes assigned based mostly on driver proficiency. Some DSR's are better at running a single zipcode with tightly packed stops where others are better at rural routes with more road time and less stops. Some drivers are better at handling stops that involve inside deliveries like to malls and residents. It's hard, IMO to make a case that there is a lot of favoritism going on in route assignments when the routes are as diverse as the drivers' abilities to complete them successfully. In my place, we have the same guy go out every day on a lift gate trailer, not because he's being punished but because he's the best driver to get it done. We have over half our people going out on the same runs everyday because they're good at it and it keeps most of our work force happy. You're always going to have grumblers when it comes to route assignments and some of those grumblers are going to think that they are being showed favoritism, but I'm here to tell you that I simply don't believe that's the case, not when I have management coming to me asking about the new hires I've trained and asking me where I believe they will be able to best perform in the city.
 
ScotchNeat said:
I don't know about you, but before I filled out my first city bid sheet I was told by HR that I am bidding on a start time only which meant that I would run where they needed me to run at that designated start time. Every city run is unique with it's own traffic patterns, street and intersection setups, docks vs. no docks, stem times, etc....In my time as a city driver I see routes assigned based mostly on driver proficiency. Some DSR's are better at running a single zipcode with tightly packed stops where others are better at rural routes with more road time and less stops. Some drivers are better at handling stops that involve inside deliveries like to malls and residents. It's hard, IMO to make a case that there is a lot of favoritism going on in route assignments when the routes are as diverse as the drivers' abilities to complete them successfully. In my place, we have the same guy go out every day on a lift gate trailer, not because he's being punished but because he's the best driver to get it done. We have over half our people going out on the same runs everyday because they're good at it and it keeps most of our work force happy. You're always going to have grumblers when it comes to route assignments and some of those grumblers are going to think that they are being showed favoritism, but I'm here to tell you that I simply don't believe that's the case, not when I have management coming to me asking about the new hires I've trained and asking me where I believe they will be able to best perform in the city.
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Competence earns responsibility. I’ve seen guys lolligag on liftgate/residential routes and bring back stops galore...only because they thought if they feigned incompetence, they’d be yanked off the route. Sure enough, that’s eventually what happens, because that freight has to be delivered and they get put on a route more ‘suitable’ to their work....style. We had one fellow at XPO (Conway in my time there) who’d be in the FOS’s ear 2 minutes after he clocked in with the “I can’t do so-and-so stop or I’ll miss that one. And I can’t deliver to ‘Randy’s Brand New Things’ between 1:37 & 1:39pm because Opie is usually eating a box of Milk Duds at that time.” It became quite comical after a while.
 
Fly-by-night said:
You know that is a double edge sword. Some of the long tenured employees might be over paid? I all for a review. lets see were everyone stands. At my barn we have some former union drivers and some of them laziest one we have. There is another one that walks around and has said on many occasion " I been here XX years and they owe me" "I've been here XX years and I deserve that run/truck/forklift." He's been in the TM office so many time he keeps tissue on his desk for him. He also a former CF employee
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Ex-union doesn't come into play....I've said it before, lazy people will be just that. Union or non union. Out barn is far from being union, but in my opinion we have more lazy employees than hard workers.
I agree that tenured employees should enjoy perks that are available such as new equipment, better runs, premium vacation slots, premium schedules as long as they are doing what's asked. We as tenured employees have nothing else more than that over a 3 year employee.
 
Hollywoodz said:
If you really want to be spared any more of my bull ::::shit::::, then please answer the question. Explain the added layer of bull ::::shit:::: from the Teamsters.
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The added layer is having to keep up with this nonsense and doing it for free. There are drama queens that live for that, but I already have a job- I don't need another one. And you certainly can't let the Teamsters out of your sight.

Not that they'd let you anyway- you can't be outraged properly if they don't constantly remind you how. Who really wants to be chased around by an organization that functions as a tinfoil millinery, calling you and texting you and emailing you and parading around your workplace sounding off about all the ways you're being cheated and how great their leadership is? No, thank you.

There was a time, not long ago, when I didn't have to think about unions at this company. I'm looking forward to going back there one day.
 
Hollywoodz said:
It all comes down to your ability to overcome the fear that is preventing you from taking that first step.
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SMH. Still playing that one, huh? I suppose it's easier than accepting that the messianic zeal of this campaign is uninspiring to and flatly rejected by a majority of your coworkers.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Since deregulation, it's been a race to the bottom. Who can do it cheaper? And when rates are reduced, who suffers? It's you and I who suffer.
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Easy to say when you don't know what consumer prices would have looked like had the ICC been able to allow trucking to continue to print money.

Hollywoodz said:
Irrelevance, lies and misrepresentations, typical of any union busting website. 1-888-nounions. Really?
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"Lie" is a strong word- which of those statements is a lie?

And really, you don't get to spit righteous indignation about misrepresentations and falsehoods if you're going to post stuff like this:
Hollywoodz said:
You've had your first drive cam violation for following too close. You're expecting the first step in the progressive discipline policy, which is a warning. Oops, you're fired. Why? Because they can. You don't have a contract.
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No one has ever been or would be fired for following too close on camera one time.
 
Hollywoodz said:
It is a fact that 7 have been fired over the years, but it is also a fact that every one of those guys were reinstated and received all of their back pay in a nice fat check.
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Yes, a nice fat check that they would have received anyway in weekly increments, had they kept their jobs. They got some interest, but they also had to get fired and participate in all the administrative junk that goes with that. At best, I'd say it's a push on that hand.
 
Hollywoodz said:
They endured 25 years of Federal Stewardship for the specific purpose of cleaning up their act. And, they did.
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Yet they're still handing out indictments and the guy in charge is still the son of the guy in charge at the height of Teamster corruption. If you're able to type that bit about "cleaning up their act" with a straight face, I'm impressed.

Hollywoodz said:
The actions of a few individuals should not destroy the reputation of any organization.
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A few?? Oh, it's a lot more than that, from the crooked white collars up top to the guys on the bottom that provide the inspiration for union stereotypes. Same as it ever was.
 
Fly-by-night said:
Why do you have to go down that road of name calling.
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Because that's the real opinion. The super polite thing is just an act. The union knows two of its biggest image problems are strong arm tactics and corruption, so they pretend to be ultra respectful and open, but it's hard to keep that up for 3 years. Just after the election it was:
sucker666 said:
We work together in harmony even after the we went through but we have a mutual respect for each other and it will remain that way if I any say in it.
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And now it's...
sucker666 said:
That was not at true our location with our vote. The only guys who voted against it were lower seniority ass kissers. Guys feared they would loss there ill gotten gains too a union forced seniority
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Just gonna kick back here and wait for Hollywoodz to announce that Sucker has lost all of HIS credibility on the boards.
 
Serene Gene said:
Because that's the real opinion. The super polite thing is just an act. The union knows two of its biggest image problems are strong arm tactics and corruption, so they pretend to be ultra respectful and open, but it's hard to keep that up for 3 years. Just after the election it was:

And now it's...


Just gonna kick back here and wait for Hollywoodz to announce that Sucker has lost all of HIS credibility on the boards.
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Nope , it hasn’t changed much since after the vote . Ass kissers are still around , we all get along better than ever . Ass kissers included.
All is good , but I’m flattered after all this time you still are bitter enough to do the research to find old post to try to discredit me.
Business must be slow ?
 
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Serene Gene said:
The added layer is having to keep up with this nonsense and doing it for free. There are drama queens that live for that, but I already have a job- I don't need another one. And you certainly can't let the Teamsters out of your sight.

Not that they'd let you anyway- you can't be outraged properly if they don't constantly remind you how. Who really wants to be chased around by an organization that functions as a tinfoil millinery, calling you and texting you and emailing you and parading around your workplace sounding off about all the ways you're being cheated and how great their leadership is? No, thank you.

There was a time, not long ago, when I didn't have to think about unions at this company. I'm looking forward to going back there one day.
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If only XPO would give us great insurance, no one would be interested in the teamsters . Teamsters insurance is awesome ! XPO in one word “SUCKS ! “
 
Trucker 206 said:
Competence earns responsibility. I’ve seen guys lolligag on liftgate/residential routes and bring back stops galore...only because they thought if they feigned incompetence, they’d be yanked off the route. Sure enough, that’s eventually what happens, because that freight has to be delivered and they get put on a route more ‘suitable’ to their work....style. We had one fellow at XPO (Conway in my time there) who’d be in the FOS’s ear 2 minutes after he clocked in with the “I can’t do so-and-so stop or I’ll miss that one. And I can’t deliver to ‘Randy’s Brand New Things’ between 1:37 & 1:39pm because Opie is usually eating a box of Milk Duds at that time.” It became quite comical after a while.
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That is one of the biggest problem with us all being paid the same. The guy bumping docks and playing on his phone gets the same as the one doing the liftgate and residentials. If there was more money on the liftgate truck some drivers would be fighting over it.
 
Serene Gene said:
"Lie" is a strong word- which of those statements is a lie?

And really, you don't get to spit righteous indignation about misrepresentations and falsehoods if you're going to post stuff like this:
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I'm still waiting for a reply I ask them the same thing. Nothing but crickets
 
sucker666 said:
All is good , but I’m flattered after all this time you still are bitter enough to do the research to find old post to try to discredit me.
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You say that like it's hard work.

sucker666 said:
Business must be slow ?
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Not at all- as a matter of fact, I even cashed in on some OT recently. Hard to get motivated to jump into this discussion sometimes after a long day of moving freight, you know?
 
BabyJ5525 said:
If only XPO would give us great insurance, no one would be interested in the teamsters .
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No one is interested. Okay, a little less than 4 percent are, but that's basically no one.

BabyJ5525 said:
Teamsters insurance is awesome !
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Yeah, but it comes with the Teamsters, and they suck.

BabyJ5525 said:
XPO in one word “SUCKS ! “
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Depends on what you're comparing it to- relative to many policies that I know through casual comparisons, it's not bad and in many cases pretty good.
 
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