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Fly-by-night said:
what does he have to learn. He said he gets paid when he works through his break.
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First of all he’s breaking the law by falsifying his logs. Do you remember the drivers fired right after the union vote in Trenton ? You and others defended the company for firing on of the guys for a first offense of mismatching his log lunch time and the time he put in the clock . If I remember right you said he was rightfully fired do falsifying his logs. Now your saying it’s ok for this guy to do just that thing ? Was the company wrong like the courts found or has your logic changed ?
 
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sucker666 said:
First of all he’s breaking the law by falsifying his logs. Do you remember the drivers fired right after the union vote in Trenton ? You and others defended the company for firing on of the guys for a first offense of mismatching his log lunch time and the time he put in the clock . If I remember right you said he was rightfully fired do falsifying his logs. Now your saying it’s ok for this guy to do just that thing ? Was the company wrong like the courts found or has your logic changed ?
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Ain’t no log flatuLatin or falsificatin or whatever round here. It’s nice bein log exempt.

Just gotta make sure to not hafta give em more than 8 in 30 days so’s I stays thataway.
 
Sling Blade said:
Ain’t no log flatuLatin or falsificatin or whatever round here. It’s nice bein log exempt.

Just gotta make sure to not hafta give em more than 8 in 30 days so’s I stays thataway.
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When I train new guys I always stress to them to do their logs correctly, even if they think they are 'log exempt'. This company WILL use anything they can to fire you. I'd suggest the same to you because when something happens, they will not hesitate to find something to justify a firing. Not for one second.
 
Tao said:
When I train new guys I always stress to them to do their logs correctly, even if they think they are 'log exempt'. This company WILL use anything they can to fire you. I'd suggest the same to you because when something happens, they will not hesitate to find something to justify a firing. Not for one second.
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I was of the understanding no one is log exempt at Xpo . If your working through you lunch your lunch and logging out your in violation.
 
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sucker666 said:
I was of the understanding no one is log exempt at Xpo . If your working through you lunch your lunch and logging out your in violation.
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That's my understanding as well. People still argue about it, obviously. I just toss my two pennies out there. Maybe they'll be proven correct when the headsman comes knocking... but I doubt it.
 
My understanding is that we are to take a full 30 break between the 4th and 6th hour and certainly before 8 hours from our first punch. I know some of the L/H guys deviate from this by taking their break after their FAC dock time is over. This practice, in some instances results in a total of more than 8 hours of combined driving and on duty time being logged before a full 30 minute break. I you're a person who takes a break after exceeding a total of 8 hours combined driving/on duty time, then you should consider changing your routine. Protect yourself, take your break between your 4th and 6th hour, regardless if you're city or L/H. Don't give a plaintiff another reason to win a lawsuit against you after you've been involved in a CMV accident.
 
ScotchNeat said:
My understanding is that we are to take a full 30 break between the 4th and 6th hour and certainly before 8 hours from our first punch. I know some of the L/H guys deviate from this by taking their break after their FAC dock time is over. This practice, in some instances results in a total of more than 8 hours of combined driving and on duty time being logged before a full 30 minute break. I you're a person who takes a break after exceeding a total of 8 hours combined driving/on duty time, then you should consider changing your routine. Protect yourself, take your break between your 4th and 6th hour, regardless if you're city or L/H. Don't give a plaintiff another reason to win a lawsuit against you after you've been involved in a CMV accident.
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Taking your lunch after the fac is perfectly legal. You can’t drive once your 8 has been reached. 4th to 6th is for city p&d.
 
ScotchNeat said:
My understanding is that we are to take a full 30 break between the 4th and 6th hour and certainly before 8 hours from our first punch. I know some of the L/H guys deviate from this by taking their break after their FAC dock time is over. This practice, in some instances results in a total of more than 8 hours of combined driving and on duty time being logged before a full 30 minute break. I you're a person who takes a break after exceeding a total of 8 hours combined driving/on duty time, then you should consider changing your routine. Protect yourself, take your break between your 4th and 6th hour, regardless if you're city or L/H. Don't give a plaintiff another reason to win a lawsuit against you after you've been involved in a CMV accident.
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Please explain how this would help in a lawsuit? On LH if I took my lunch on my 6hr mark that would leave me excellently 7.5hrs to my 14hrs. Now it's Sat morning I am drive back to my SIC on my way I get caught in a accident backup. No problem I can use the 16hr rule. Oh no at the 14.5hr mark I have reached another 8hrs on duty I have to take another 30min break which only leaves me 1hr of time to get home, but I'm 1.5hrs away.
Do you see were i going with this... Taking a break to soon can case you to have to take another break. See you city guys don't have that problem of sitting on the side of the road on Sat while you TM tries to find someone to come pick you up. So taking you break 2 hrs too soon cost you hours in the end.
 
BabyJ5525 said:
Please let the rest of us know how you get paid for working your lunch ?
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sucker666 said:
First of all he’s breaking the law by falsifying his logs.
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Ok boys lets count the way a driver can work through his lunch, get paid and not falsify his log:
1. Drive goes on a P&D run and retruns to the yard before his 8th hour. FOS ask him to skip lunch and help on the dock. He ends up clocking 12.5hrs.
2. He's a jockey the FOM lets asked him to skip lunch and he logs 12hrs.
3. LH driver goes to the FAC or meet and turn, gets there gets hand loads to go home get back to his yard before his 8th hour. Helps the FOS with some jockeying before he goes home logs 11hrs
These are a few that are 100% legal to do
 
sucker666 said:
First of all he’s breaking the law by falsifying his logs. Do you remember the drivers fired right after the union vote in Trenton ? You and others defended the company for firing on of the guys for a first offense of mismatching his log lunch time and the time he put in the clock . If I remember right you said he was rightfully fired do falsifying his logs. Now your saying it’s ok for this guy to do just that thing ? Was the company wrong like the courts found or has your logic changed ?
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I though they were fired because they were taking the hazmat route out of XMI and not having hazmat on board, but on to your post.
No my logic has not changed. They falsified there logs. Falsifying your log or any company paperwork is ground for immediate termination at any carrier union or non. In my post above a list some examples of perfectly legal ways to log over 8hrs without have to show a lunch.
 
Fly-by-night said:
I though they were fired because they were taking the hazmat route out of XMI and not having hazmat on board, but on to your post.
No my logic has not changed. They falsified there logs. Falsifying your log or any company paperwork is ground for immediate termination at any carrier union or non. In my post above a list some examples of perfectly legal ways to log over 8hrs without have to show a lunch.
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2 were fired for route deviation and 1 for log violation . All were found wrongfully fired by the NLRB . Fired in retaliation for voting for their legal right to form a union . I want you to think about that when your trusting in the fact that this company has your best interest at hand and does everything above the board. I would not recommend drivers working through their lunch.
 
sucker666 said:
2 were fired for route deviation and 1 for log violation . All were found wrongfully fired by the NLRB . Fired in retaliation for voting for their legal right to form a union . I want you to think about that when your trusting in the fact that this company has your best interest at hand and does everything above the board. I would not recommend drivers working through their lunch.
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I never tell anyone to work through there lunch. I was just showing that you can legal log working through a lunch. As for the company as far as I know the FOS has to get approval for you to do it. It more of a pain in the ass then it worth. Years ago it was standard practice. I sure CCX did it. we all know after 6hrs on the clock the company automatically take 30mins for lunch. I work one sat and made sure I clock out before 6hrs
 
BabyJ5525 said:
Yes , let’s just keep giving & giving to the company while they keep taking & taking !
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BabyJ... this post made me laugh. I get a paper payroll stub mailed to my house every Monday. I compare it with my email daily pay form. XPO pays me for every minute that I log. I do not work off the clock. If you are giving and giving without pay you are doing something wrong. Don't blame the company for accepting free labor.
 
Can’t believe some what y’all gotta put up with. No local exemption.... Gotta take lunch between 4 and 6 hours... Fired for “route deviation”? What the hell’s all that? Like yer 10 years old and can’t read a damn map???

I’m glad R&L ain’t got all these stupid piddly ass little rules.
 
Sling Blade said:
Can’t believe some what y’all gotta put up with. No local exemption.... Gotta take lunch between 4 and 6 hours... Fired for “route deviation”? What the hell’s all that? Like yer 10 years old and can’t read a damn map???

I’m glad R&L ain’t got all these stupid piddly ass little rules.
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Oh. You're not even an XPO employee. In that case, do whatever your company finds acceptable.
 
upnorth said:
Taking your lunch after the fac is perfectly legal. You can’t drive once your 8 has been reached. 4th to 6th is for city p&d.
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I thought everyone had to take their 30 before 8 hours regardless if your L/H or city , even if you work the dock some after driving for awhile ?
 
trucknfool said:
Correct! One can work around the clock, as long as he doesn't drive a commercial vehicle until the appropriate break is complete.
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As soon as you punch your 14 hours start and if you drive within the 1st 7 hours when 8 hours is up you better have taken your 30
 
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