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Pissed Teamster said:
I'm an employee at YRC (dock- CHI) & have been trying to get hired at Estes for sometime. I've been with YRC since 2006 while in the industry since 2005. I don't know why, but I have not had any luck at even getting an interview. Has it anything to do with being a union member? It's been awhile since I last applied, but is there any advice? Thank you! A currently disgruntled Teamster.
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I put in an application as a Linehaul driver with them at a terminal in Dallas and they called me literally the next day, set the interview up for that next following day, and offered me the job on the spot after a 10 minute interview. Ended up turning it down, but it didn’t take very long at all.
 
TexasMike199 said:
I put in an application as a Linehaul driver with them at a terminal in Dallas and they called me literally the next day, set the interview up for that next following day, and offered me the job on the spot after a 10 minute interview. Ended up turning it down, but it didn’t take very long at all.
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U dun goofed.

Extraboard is a $100k a year job at Estes running in that region out of a terminal like Dallas.
 
Linehaul3Life said:
U dun goofed.

Extraboard is a $100k a year job at Estes running in that region out of a terminal like Dallas.
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Quite the contrary, I was in the interview process with ABF at the same time and picked the better carrier in terms of being a linehaul driver.

Estes May pay slightly better in terms of mileage pay, but that’s literally the only advantage over ABF.
 
TexasMike199 said:
Quite the contrary, I was in the interview process with ABF at the same time and picked the better carrier in terms of being a linehaul driver.

Estes May pay slightly better in terms of mileage pay, but that’s literally the only advantage over ABF.
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Estes hasn't had a layoff in forever. ABF lays off constantly. Had a buddy got put on layoff last year and he was out so long waiting he just went ahead and found another job. Plus at a union job as a new guy your the scrub who will get bumped by every senior guy and get all the crap work.

If your happy that's all that matters but I wouldnt go out and say ABF is all that great.
 
Frootloop said:
Enjoy slip seating in a nicotine coated tractor and being on call 7 days a week for a while. We all have to pick our poison.
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Good thing I’m a smoker. Nicotine doesn’t bother me.

Yeah, starting out here isn’t the greatest, but damn, once you get a few years in and a few guys underneath you, this place is hard to beat.

The 7 day a week on call deal isn’t that bad considering we we run our extra board in “call blocks” (12,3,6,9am and 12,3,6,9pm) with a neat app on your phone that lets you see your real time board position and gives you the ability to set up text alerts when you’ve reached your desired board position.

We also have the ability to “slide” a call block or if you have something to do drop what’s called a “24” where your removed from the board for 24 hours.

Our time off schedule is what’s best for a young guy. We earn ATO days every sixth trip (58 hours for your first 6 trips and 24 hours off every 6th trip after that) that we can stockpile up to a total of 30 days and take mini vacations all year long that don’t count against our normal vacation time.

Not to mention the literal stress free workplace. Minimum 2 hour call out, show up to work, if your ::shit:: ain’t ready at your dispatch time, punch your Linehaul sheet, sit back and enjoy the hourly pay while they finish loading or hooking your set.

Walk out the door with your paperwork, find your pre fueled, windows washed, pre strung with power set, Do a pre trip and roll out. Get to where your going and drop the entire unit and either go to the hotel or hit dispatch if your on a turn.

Life is good over at ABF. Not to mention the good hourly pay for EVERYTHING we do, the decent mileage rate, the healthcare is top notch (at no charge to the employee) and they treat you like a grown adult and a professional driver.

Wasn’t ::shit:: talking Estes, but somehow this has turned into a dick measuring competition. lmao
 
slopway said:
No joke . Look up hair follicle drug test . Said they would shave the back of my head or I needed shave legs to get a big ball of hair. I chose the legs as it won't be seen by most till it grows back . I looked it up after I got home and websites say 120 hairs or more . I went in thinking it would just be maybe five. So I guess all abf drivers go through it .
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I never heard of either doing a hair test. You're saying ABF does that now, not Estes...correct? I have no problem with a urine test but I wouldn't work for anyone who either puts a camera on my dashboard pointed right at the driver's seat or pulls hair out of my head. If a couple decades of experience and a spotless record isn't enough to keep their minds at ease, screw em.
 
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Road King Rider said:
I never heard of either doing a hair test. You're saying ABF does that now, not Estes...correct? I have no problem with a urine test but I wouldn't work for anyone who either puts a camera on my dashboard pointed right at the driver's seat or pulls hair out of my head. If a couple decades of experience and a spotless record isn't enough to keep their minds at ease, screw em.
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Whats next, core sample of the brain
 
Road King Rider said:
I never heard of either doing a hair test. You're saying ABF does that now, not Estes...correct? I have no problem with a urine test but I wouldn't work for anyone who either puts a camera on my dashboard pointed right at the driver's seat or pulls hair out of my head. If a couple decades of experience and a spotless record isn't enough to keep their minds at ease, screw em.
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Well this might not make you happy. It is an eventual goal of the FMSCA/DOT to require all drivers to undergo hair follicle drug testing. It's been brought up a lot as something they want to do.

As of right now Estes does not, as fair as I know. In any case I have taken these hair follicle tests for other companies and it doesnt have to be hair from your head. They can get hair from anywhere on your body. They took hair from my leg. Grew back quick. No big deal.

It's getting to the point where any job paying decent money requires you to jump through these hoops, trucking or not.
 
Linehaul3Life said:
Well this might not make you happy. It is an eventual goal of the FMSCA/DOT to require all drivers to undergo hair follicle drug testing. It's been brought up a lot as something they want to do.

As of right now Estes does not, as fair as I know. In any case I have taken these hair follicle tests for other companies and it doesnt have to be hair from your head. They can get hair from anywhere on your body. They took hair from my leg. Grew back quick. No big deal.

It's getting to the point where any job paying decent money requires you to jump through these hoops, trucking or not.
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The last I read, the DOT actually lowered the percentage of drivers that a company is required to drug test. Not sure when that took place but I believe it since I see my employer test a lot less than say 20 years ago. I've yet to hear anything about the DOT pushing for 100% hair follicle testing but I wouldn't doubt what you're saying. If anything, a lot of employers where I live have stopped testing people for THC (not trucking of course). If they proceed with the MORE act and remove cannabis from the list of controlled substances, you have to wonder if they'll start testing for THC the way they test for alcohol. A simple breathalyzer or saliva test which only goes back 5 or 6 hours. I'll **** in a cup every morning for them as long as they let me clock in first. After all, It ends up getting flushed down a toilet. Start shaving hair off my body to see what I do when I'm not on duty and I'm out.
 
Road King Rider said:
The last I read, the DOT actually lowered the percentage of drivers that a company is required to drug test. Not sure when that took place but I believe it since I see my employer test a lot less than say 20 years ago. I've yet to hear anything about the DOT pushing for 100% hair follicle testing but I wouldn't doubt what you're saying. If anything, a lot of employers where I live have stopped testing people for THC (not trucking of course). If they proceed with the MORE act and remove cannabis from the list of controlled substances, you have to wonder if they'll start testing for THC the way they test for alcohol. A simple breathalyzer or saliva test which only goes back 5 or 6 hours. I'll **** in a cup every morning for them as long as they let me clock in first. After all, It ends up getting flushed down a toilet. Start shaving hair off my body to see what I do when I'm not on duty and I'm out.
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I always wanted to know if new hires first test counts towards the quota and when we go for a test we should be off with pay until the results are ready i see when a driver failed they are picked up on the road although before the test and while the results were being prepared the driver was the best number one person and now derated to bum because of a tko
 
ED FORCE ONE said:
I always wanted to know if new hires first test counts towards the quota and when we go for a test we should be off with pay until the results are ready i see when a driver failed they are picked up on the road although before the test and while the results were being prepared the driver was the best number one person and now derated to bum because of a tko
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You said it's the DOT's goal to require hair testing for all drivers. Where can I read about this? I can't find it anywhere.
 
Road King Rider said:
I never heard of either doing a hair test. You're saying ABF does that now, not Estes...correct? I have no problem with a urine test but I wouldn't work for anyone who either puts a camera on my dashboard pointed right at the driver's seat or pulls hair out of my head. If a couple decades of experience and a spotless record isn't enough to keep their minds at ease, screw em.
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I work for ABF, had a drug test last week....pissed in a cup no hair or heard any mention of them testing hair....
 
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