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I never mentioned about pensions being in bad I said they are a dinosaur. There aren't any companies that I'm aware of that's starting pension plans in this day and age. New hires here start accumulate 12 pto days their first year. Eight years we get 20 days. We also get overtime after 8 all holidays and black Friday paid and we don't pay $63 union due.
First year employees at ABF get 13 pto days....2nd year 18....8 years 23....15 years 28....20 years 33....30 years 38
 
I get a contribution to my 401k which has been doing good so far, yes I know there is risk in losing but there is risk in everyday life. What happens if you work where there is a pension and you die 10 years after working there, do you get anything from it? My family will get my 401k. Our owner can be anti driver and dock worker all he wants, he still has to have us. One day if they can replace us, and company that doesn't will be a dinosaur and be out of business. I contribute to a HSA, I put enough in there to cover my deductible. I'm not saying it's a perfect place to work but there are places way worse. The majority of drivers here see no value in unions or there would be more barns that would vote
Or, perhaps they fear they’ll have their jobs threatened if they attempt an organization campaign. I would imagine XPO upper-management is as anti-union as Conway was. I remember one of my first days at Conway involved watching numerous ‘training’ videos including one that was one of the most, if not THE most, anti-union videos I’ve ever seen.
 
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I never mentioned about pensions being in bad I said they are a dinosaur. Do you get to do what you want to with that $21,122.65? So if you quit tomorrow you take that with you? Xpo contributed $4,638.97 last year into my 401k. Yes not as much as yours but it's mine and I can invest it and grow it. And if I quit tomorrow it's still mine There aren't any companies that I'm aware of that's starting pension plans in this day and age. New hires here start accumulate 12 pto days their first year. Eight years we get 20 days. We also get overtime after 8 all holidays and black Friday paid and we don't pay $63 union due.
As for “taking the pension money with us” when we leave a Teamster job, that would depend on if you’re vested or not, which usually happens after 5 (uninterrupted) years of service. After 5 years, yes...you CAN take it with you. It will be there for you always. The longer you’re in, the bigger your monthly benefit. It’s that simple. And what do you pay for healthcare for your family? I bet it’s more than $63/month. ABF employees pay nothing. That alone right there is worth it.
 
I never mentioned about pensions being in bad I said they are a dinosaur. Do you get to do what you want to with that $21,122.65? So if you quit tomorrow you take that with you? Xpo contributed $4,638.97 last year into my 401k. Yes not as much as yours but it's mine and I can invest it and grow it. And if I quit tomorrow it's still mine There aren't any companies that I'm aware of that's starting pension plans in this day and age. New hires here start accumulate 12 pto days their first year. Eight years we get 20 days. We also get overtime after 8 all holidays and black Friday paid and we don't pay $63 union due.
You get 0 sick days , about 2 years ago they took 1 bereavement day away , you get 0 personal days . Also if you quit or get fired and you have PTO time built up you lose it all . With union you quit or get fired you get all that’s owed you . Vacation time , personal days , sick days etc . Keep your ins for 90 days . I believe most LTL co give you personal days , sick days ,4 bereavement days and more I would rather have vacation time then pto time
 
You should do a little research on pensions, not all are in bad shape. I’m in central Pennsylvania fund & its in great shape along with the Western plan(left coast). In 2018 ABF contributed $21,122.65 into my retirement, that’s $10.395 per hour. We are in the same plan as UPS parcel....I get 3 weeks vacation after 8 years, 5 sick days per year & 3 personal per year + all major holidays including Black Friday, overtime after 8 not 40 & work rules.... not bragging by any means just what I get for $63 per month (dues)
What about healthcare you get team care for that 63 dollars a month am I correct. If so sounds very good to me.
 
I get a contribution to my 401k which has been doing good so far, yes I know there is risk in losing but there is risk in everyday life. What happens if you work where there is a pension and you die 10 years after working there, do you get anything from it? My family will get my 401k. Our owner can be anti driver and dock worker all he wants, he still has to have us. One day if they can replace us, and company that doesn't will be a dinosaur and be out of business. I contribute to a HSA, I put enough in there to cover my deductible. I'm not saying it's a perfect place to work but there are places way worse. The majority of drivers here see no value in unions or there would be more barns that would vote
Way worse , the driver jobs on craigslist no benefits of any kind, not even the employers half of social security , 1099 jobs need to be illegal
 
we got back the pay cut from 2008, pensions are dinosaurs and they aren't coming back. If you look at other companies you'd have a hard time finding one the offers more pto time then we do. I don't like some of the things we lost but still have it pretty good when compared to other companies.
Why does a union vote mean pension? The voters can ask for the retirement contribution to go 401k instead of pension. I’d prefer that. Imagine $350 per week going into your 401
 
we got back the pay cut from 2008, pensions are dinosaurs and they aren't coming back. If you look at other companies you'd have a hard time finding one the offers more pto time then we do. I don't like some of the things we lost but still have it pretty good when compared to other companies.
The CEO's of companies like to spout off that pensions are a thing of the past, all while collecting pensions or being given alot of stock upon retirement. They hope that by saying that pensions are dead that people will buy into it and repeat it as fact. Your job might be a good one now, and I truly hope it stays that way. But you have probably heard that history repeats itself. You need to look no further than truckload. It used to be a good job, but now there are no more unions in that sector and you can see how those jobs are.
 
You get 0 sick days , about 2 years ago they took 1 bereavement day away , you get 0 personal days . Also if you quit or get fired and you have PTO time built up you lose it all . With union you quit or get fired you get all that’s owed you . Vacation time , personal days , sick days etc . Keep Also if you quit or get fired and you have PTO time built up you lose it all . With union you quit or get fired you get all that’s owed you
That’s a big one that most don’t give any thought too
The CEO's of companies like to spout off that pensions are a thing of the past, all while collecting pensions or being given alot of stock upon retirement. They hope that by saying that pensions are dead that people will buy into it and repeat it as fact. Your job might be a good one now, and I truly hope it stays that way. But you have probably heard that history repeats itself. You need to look no further than truckload. It used to be a good job, but now there are no more unions in that sector and you can see how those jobs are.
That a fact . Corporations will not stop until they drive shipping cost down to nothing.
 
That’s a big one that most don’t give any thought too

That a fact . Corporations will not stop until they drive shipping cost down to nothing.
That’s it give a 90% discount off 2005 rates....makes a lot of sense. Sad part is some one will come in and lowball that....
That’s a big one that most don’t give any thought too

That a fact . Corporations will not stop until they drive shipping cost down to nothing.
 
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