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highspeeds said:
A loop hole that needs to be closed. Everyone deserves OT after 40. It's ridiculous that a law exists to exempt any class of worker from this.
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Consider OTR drivers for a minute. From my perspective if I'm inside company equipment in any capacity including sleeping then I'm at work. For the purpose of illustration, taking the 40hr work week to the extreme and applying it to an OTR driver, he would be paid time and a half for 16 hours per day. How's that going to work out for the price of consumer goods?
 
ScotchNeat said:
Consider OTR drivers for a minute. From my perspective if I'm inside company equipment in any capacity including sleeping then I'm at work. For the purpose of illustration, taking the 40hr work week to the extreme and applying it to an OTR driver, he would be paid time and a half for 16 hours per day. How's that going to work out for the price of consumer goods?
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I have often wondered something like that....my opinion is all driving hours, all on duty not driving, and off duty hours when loading and unloading should be covered. When I ran for I remember these famous words "that is included in your mileage pay." What a joke!
 
ScotchNeat said:
Consider OTR drivers for a minute. From my perspective if I'm inside company equipment in any capacity including sleeping then I'm at work. For the purpose of illustration, taking the 40hr work week to the extreme and applying it to an OTR driver, he would be paid time and a half for 16 hours per day. How's that going to work out for the price of consumer goods?
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OTR has been getting screwed out of fair pay for everything besides driving. Don’t know of any other profession that a person could work 70 hours a week, and only get paid for 45-50.I’m not saying it should be time and a half, but any on duty time,not driving should be paid. And not this, detention paid after the first 2, or 3 hours crap. Far as cost of consumer goods? I look at it that like this. The oil companies say someone farted in the Middle East? Price of gas goes up. People accept this as the norm, just like their $1,000 dollar I Phone, and the $300 dollar monthly bill that comes with it. I think OTR drivers should go on the clock as soon as their ELD arrives them at destination, and stays paid until leaving on the drive line.
 
ScotchNeat said:
Consider OTR drivers for a minute. From my perspective if I'm inside company equipment in any capacity including sleeping then I'm at work. For the purpose of illustration, taking the 40hr work week to the extreme and applying it to an OTR driver, he would be paid time and a half for 16 hours per day. How's that going to work out for the price of consumer goods?
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At some point you gotta stop treating people like slaves. That driver deserves to be paid for what they are doing.
 
ABF381 said:
I have often wondered something like that....my opinion is all driving hours, all on duty not driving, and off duty hours when loading and unloading should be covered. When I ran for I remember these famous words "that is included in your mileage pay." What a joke!
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Agree. Off duty or bunk hours might not be paid. But all others. At the very least. Should be paid. Many of my friends ( non LTL ) that run out and have to sit get detention pay for anything over a couple hours. And some go places that are so difficult to deal with. Slow office or tight yard. That they get an additional stipend just to take that run.
 
BIG R GUY said:
OTR has been getting screwed out of fair pay for everything besides driving. Don’t know of any other profession that a person could work 70 hours a week, and only get paid for 45-50.I’m not saying it should be time and a half, but any on duty time,not driving should be paid. And not this, detention paid after the first 2, or 3 hours crap. Far as cost of consumer goods? I look at it that like this. The oil companies say someone farted in the Middle East? Price of gas goes up. People accept this as the norm, just like their $1,000 dollar I Phone, and the $300 dollar monthly bill that comes with it. I think OTR drivers should go on the clock as soon as their ELD arrives them at destination, and stays paid until leaving on the drive line.
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Friday morning i waited 3 hours for the meet driver no pay not even thanks and if i complain i get called into the office for a bad attitude lecture , if on duty and mileage pay are mixed together the on duty could never get to 40 it would be about 10 to 20 and its a burn when a road driver and city driver run to the same terminal road 60 bucks city 110 bucks (75 mile round trip) or rip or jip
 
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ED FORCE ONE said:
Friday morning i waited 3 hours for the meet driver no pay not even thanks and if i complain i get called into the office for a bad attitude lecture , if on duty and mileage pay are mixed together the on duty could never get to 40 it would be about 10 to 20 and its a burn when a road driver and city driver run to the same terminal road 60 bucks city 110 bucks (75 mile round trip) or rip or jip
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I was referring to truckload OTR Ed. But sitting 3 hours in LTL as a road meet driver, and not getting compensated isn’t right either.
 
In Canada, federal labor law, which most drivers/companies are operating under, are supposed to get OT after 60 hours/week, regardless if it's mileage pay or hourly pay. and it doesn't matter if the hours are accrued by time that is deemed unpaid or 'included' in your mileage pay. Most companies don't pay it because most drivers either don't know the laws or don't exercise that law but it's there and in place to be used. As well, any and all salaried jobs are to be based on 40 hours per week, anything over that either has to be paid as OT or be given time off in lieu of time worked beyond 40.

I know your guys labor laws for truck drivers sucks and I wish someone would lobby the feds to change the laws.
 
Dude-PWB- said:
In Canada, federal labor law, which most drivers/companies are operating under, are supposed to get OT after 60 hours/week, regardless if it's mileage pay or hourly pay. and it doesn't matter if the hours are accrued by time that is deemed unpaid or 'included' in your mileage pay. Most companies don't pay it because most drivers either don't know the laws or don't exercise that law but it's there and in place to be used. As well, any and all salaried jobs are to be based on 40 hours per week, anything over that either has to be paid as OT or be given time off in lieu of time worked beyond 40.

I know your guys labor laws for truck drivers sucks and I wish someone would lobby the feds to change the laws.
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Correct. Xpo pays us OT after 60 hrs up here.
 
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