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Far left but not close to communists
You better check out project veritas video of Bernie Bras defending gulags,advocating violence, and planning to imprison those of us that don't agree with them, Bernie has attracted some pretty scary leftists. Sounds like Soviet style communism to me.
 
Terrified? That's your biases being projected. Communism fails under its own weight. You're reasoning for socialized healthcare is fundamentally flawed and you can't logically defend it. All you can advocate for is taking from those who have and giving to those who have not. Would you prefer we call it theft, confiscation or possibly Robin Hoodism? The term for what you want is Communism. Look up the definition. The fact you won't use the correct terminology for what you advocate is on you, not me.

Single Payer is nothing more than a polite euphemism just like pro choice is.
Its called humanity
 
You better check out project veritas video of Bernie Bras defending gulags,advocating violence, and planning to imprison those of us that don't agree with them, Bernie has attracted some pretty scary leftists. Sounds like Soviet style communism to me.
Precisely this same argument could be made per Trump and Marxism. But I won't do that because it would be just as wrong as your narrative.
 
I hate to tell you but we already have social programs in place and have for a good many years . Medicare and social security and I haven’t seen a communists uprising.
 
I hate to tell you but we already have social programs in place and have for a good many years . Medicare and social security and I haven’t seen a communists uprising.
Obama was an avowed follower of Saul Alinsky philosophy. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are front runners. Watch those Project Veritas videos yet? The one guy threatened to "burn Milwaukee down" if the DNC steals the nomination from Bernie again.
 
I hate to tell you but we already have social programs in place and have for a good many years . Medicare and social security and I haven’t seen a communists uprising.
Then why do we need socialized medicine for all ?

That's the social safety net I talked about earlier. They are there as a last resort for those that don't have medical insurance or saved for retirement. It's Medicaid for the poor by the way. Medicare for seniors
 
Obama was an avowed follower of Saul Alinsky philosophy. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are front runners. Watch those Project Veritas videos yet? The one guy threatened to "burn Milwaukee down" if the DNC steals the nomination from Bernie again.

There are Trump supporters on video waving guns around and threatening to start a civil war if Trump loses. Morons exist across all political views.

Also, Bernie and Warren? Bernie is left, for sure, but Warren is like barely left. Globally, they are both pretty centrist. Stop believing the nonsense.
 
We 13% of our income on average just for premiums alone . That does not include co-pays and uncovered needs . I have heard if that is factored in the actual cost is more like 25-30 % of annual income . So if your talking about it comparison to a 15 % vat it pretty much wipes that argument out
. You can bitch about Obama but a least he attempted to do something about it . I have not heard any alternative plan from the Republicans that differed in any way from what we had . I do know the Republicans are running on not taking away Obama care until the next election. Too much resistance from their constituents about taking it away.
and you point is..... The average new car payment is around $550 per month and used around $390 and a lease around $450. If you take that the average income is $40K to $60K. The most pay between 7% to 16% of there incomes on just car payments. This does not include gas, maintenance and insurance. Don't forget on average they have 4 credit cards and carry and average debt of around $8-$9k with an interest rate around 19%
Looks like some need to take a better look at there priorities.
 
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I still think there is much we can do to stabilize healthcare cost without having to go to full blown socialized healthcare system. That being said a medical system as we have now base on capitalistic principals as a foundation to care.( profit over everything) Which going to continue leave many with substandard care or bankrupt.
Yet all these Dems that want single payer say capitalism is bad yet they all made there money using it. If you want to really drive down the cost of healthcare then a free market with competition across state lines. Think of what you auto insurance would cost if only one company was allowed to sell in you state. My wife insurance company web site has area were I can compare my out of pocket cost, (have an HSA now thanks Obama). If I go to the local healthcare chain that runs the hospital or the hospital itself a CT scan which my wife has had cost over $1600 OFP there but if we driver 20 mins farther to a private provider it cost us around $700 OFP. Why is it cheaper for the same service at a private provider and why is the Hospital so expensive? It a real easy answer.
 
I was born here. That's pretty much why I don't leave. My wife and I have had extensive conversations about moving to Canada as well, and it may happen.
Yea we heard this alot back in 2016 if Trump won the election and 3yrs later they are still here.
Also, wanting improvement in something does not mean that I have to accept what I have or move across an ocean. It means I want where I live and love to be better.
We all want it to improve. The problem we have is with the freeloaders. Were my wife works has had people there go to part time because they were going to make to much and lose there govt assistant. That's BS. Section 8 has become a life style. Thats the problem we have with any kind of single payer because those who don't pay into the system are the ones that tend to draw on it the most.
 
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