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I heard a rumor last night that within seven months, FXF and FXNF will merge into one company. One of the first changes will be to close the FXF Fontana Ca terminal, and move that operation over to FXNF in Mira Loma Ca just a few miles away. Our Fontana terminal is the busiest terminal by far in the LA basin. It used to be one of our two break bulk terminals in the LA basin until they build the new San Bernardino terminal. SBO is only 20 miles down the road from Fontana. It cost 75M dollars to build, and it isn't centrally located and it only generates about 500 out bound bills a night. The FXNX is centrally located between the 10-15 and 60 freeways. Right next to the FXNF terminal is the old CF break bulk terminal that we could have bought for a song. Swift was the only bidder of the property, and they got it for 25M. I think we dropped the ball on that one.

If all this comes true, it will be interesting to see how they handle the seniority issue in the FXFN terminal. Will we be separate but equal or will they dove tail the seniority for the local and line drivers. What about SBO? Will it remain a break bulk terminal, or become a white elephant like Sacramento Ca has become? Inquiring minds wants to know. This should get some jaws flapping on both sides of the street. TP
 
Twice Pipes said:
I heard a rumor last night that within seven months, FXF and FXNF will merge into one company.TP
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TP.......It would only make sense to do that ..I'm no genius, But I've been expecting it from the begining..FXF is having such a hard time meeting every day standards.its unreal every nickel and dime trucking company, in quite a few areas (regions) that I know of, are acting as cartage agents for FXN just to make pick ups..... 2 or 3 days after it was called in.....it has to happen....

By the way FFFFFFF..the senority issue....it dosn't mean Shat anyway.management is so bad...and so corrupt they find ways to give their little twerp boot lickers the things that should go to Senior Guys anyways.....
 
It will never happen. At least not while I'm still working here. But then they can always go ask YRC since they have plenty of experience doing plenty of COOs.

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Who wants to merge with a company that picks up freight (fxn) that would go 230 miles when we (fxf) haul it (pays $104) to be delivered 5 days later that goes 800 miles on fxn before it gets to the customer

thats just plain stupid ...

this is not BS .. I saw the bill ..salesman showed it to me
 
slackdragon said:
Who wants to merge with a company that picks up freight (fxn) that would go 230 miles when we (fxf) haul it (pays $104) to be delivered 5 days later that goes 800 miles on fxn before it gets to the customer

thats just plain stupid ...

this is not BS .. I saw the bill ..salesman showed it to me
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i'm sorry ..I needed to add this ..it went 260 miles on a fxf truck anyway so fxn could haul it 540 miles .....

we have some real smart pencil pushers
 
slackdragon said:
i'm sorry ..I needed to add this ..it went 260 miles on a fxf truck anyway so fxn could haul it 540 miles .....

we have some real smart pencil pushers
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A little Off topic but,

Were any Better Slack ?

I delivered one the other day, we picked up 12 skids, almost 9000 pounds 2 states away..lets say 400 miles....87 % discount...paid $ 240.00 to the company..part of that 90% for 90 days I guess , Because the guy said "yellow always brings this in"...we made profit at $240 not hardley.

We work with genius'

Okay, Let's say it does nudge YRC over the cliff...

How do we benefit....ok we put 35,000 good US citizens out of work..that's good for the economy...but then the customer still has the say as to who their freight goes to....

Conway, ABF, UPS FReight ,Old Dom, SouthEastern, SAIA, Averritt, etc...

I think were shooting ourselves in the foot..across the board...
 
I wish some of you actually thought about what you all were hearing out there! Fedex did not pay all this money to merge 2 companies that have 2 different style of operations! Fedex National will be around for a long time, and so will Fedex Freight.
 
I think that you are not seing the big picture. Right now there is over capacity in the Ltl sector. A lot of freight companies are offering reduced rates to get the business. As awful as it sounds only the strong will survive and if it takes yellow going out of business, it will bring balance to the ltl sector. If yellor gets nundge over the cliff that business does necessarily mean that it would come to Fedex frt, but the pricing will improve and all the freight companies will see better pricing. There is lot of choices as to who the shippers are goint to use, But freight pricing would and improve and operating ratios for all freight companies will improve.
 
truckingboricua said:
I think that you are not seing the big picture. Right now there is over capacity in the Ltl sector. A lot of freight companies are offering reduced rates to get the business. As awful as it sounds only the strong will survive and if it takes yellow going out of business, it will bring balance to the ltl sector. If yellor gets nundge over the cliff that business does necessarily mean that it would come to Fedex frt, but the pricing will improve and all the freight companies will see better pricing. There is lot of choices as to who the shippers are goint to use, But freight pricing would and improve and operating ratios for all freight companies will improve.
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Not buying it truckingboricua + it sounds like that might have been the topic at your last regional sales rep meeting..(you learned the jargun).It just dosn't hold water, by giving deep dish discounts now we'll be able to charge more later maybe you care to elaborate some more...but as it stands with that last, albeit brief explanation, it just dosn't work....

best buy say's ....I'll sell you this radio cheap...but the next one will cost you double... I'll buy the cheap one now and the next one I'll get from Morry's because his prices are always cheap

But in the mean-time, I'll use the Sh!t out of you...
 
Let me elaborate. Right now there is not enough freight out there for the amount of freight companies out there. The market in other words is flooded with ltl providers. In order for these carriers to get more frt on board started discounting and greatly reducing the price to keep frt on board or to steal freight from the competitors. If this enviorment continues some frt companies will cease to exsist. Some companies can't compete so they keep their pricing intact and hope for a recovery in the market. But eventually one will fail due to the terrible market conditions. Here comes when the pricing gets better! If there is less compentition in the market, you will then see the carriers bring back there pricing. Your Best buy example is something totally different cause we provide a service not merchendise or goods. It just common sense. No sales member has to teach me math 101.
 
truckingboricua said:
I wish some of you actually thought about what you all were hearing out there! Fedex did not pay all this money to merge 2 companies that have 2 different style of operations! Fedex National will be around for a long time, and so will Fedex Freight.
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Why do we at freight need national when we at freight haul things farther so national can haul it so we can haul it again,
WE should have never bought Watkins, that was a total brain fart for someone, :thumbsdown: we do not need that style of cheap slow business, and if we did , we had our own trucks to do it with.

Thats water under the bridge, and no I don't think we will merge, one of us might have a new name on the door though. :stirthepot:
 
I understand what they were trying trying to do with national. We are a regional carrier, it costs more to ship with us, but our service is better. National provides a cheaper slower service, without national our ltl market would be limited. Fedex has a simple goal, to control all forms of shipping, and they are almost there. It wouldn't shock me that their next purchase would be a truckload carrier, say US Express or Barr Nunn. Hell they move more of our freight than we do, just kidding. Anyways posts like this have been coming up since fedex bought watkins, time will tell if they merge the two, I doubt they will, but we shall see I guess.
 
zathlon said:
I understand what they were trying trying to do with national. We are a regional carrier, it costs more to ship with us, but our service is better. National provides a cheaper slower service, without national our ltl market would be limited. Fedex has a simple goal, to control all forms of shipping, and they are almost there. It wouldn't shock me that their next purchase would be a truckload carrier, say US Express or Barr Nunn. Hell they move more of our freight than we do, just kidding. Anyways posts like this have been coming up since fedex bought watkins, time will tell if they merge the two, I doubt they will, but we shall see I guess.
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Watkins had that ....a Truck Load Carrier......Landspan...What happened.... our rocket scientist's let that one get away when we bought watkins....Nah I refuse to believe it...I just refuse to believe it....

P.S. whether it's a product or a service ...in trying economic times people, companies, et al... go for cheap, cheaper, cheapest..... some will even sacrifice quality for it....

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Then click on History
 
Boy, some people have amnesia! Let's see how many of you paid attention way back when Fred Ex Corporation was looking at purchasing WATKINS. The main reason Fred bought WATKINS was to "own" the well established Canadian Lanes System that Watkins was so good at managing. Fred wanted to set foot in the Canadian markets and become the dominating LTL carrier for Canadian shipments. Everything else became secondary. And if I'm wrong, please correct me. FXF moves shipments across the nation faster and probably more reliably than National. If anything, FXN would merge WITH FXF. And if it happens the other way, oh well. I won't cross that river until I get to the bridge.
 
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truckingboricua said:
I wish some of you actually thought about what you all were hearing out there! Fedex did not pay all this money to merge 2 companies that have 2 different style of operations! Fedex National will be around for a long time, and so will Fedex Freight.
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They did it with with us. Well, they just forced the east's way on us.
 
We had to have Watkins for Canada. they were not allowing any new companies and the carrier we were using quit hauling for us. i dont know if it was in the works or a kneejerk reaction to buy Watkins, but it has worked so far. canada is so much stricter about new trucking carriers starting than theUSA. It has worked good for us, as we were one of the end of line centers, so it works.
 
truckingboricua said:
I wish some of you actually thought about what you all were hearing out there! Fedex did not pay all this money to merge 2 companies that have 2 different style of operations! Fedex National will be around for a long time, and so will Fedex Freight.
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The rumor (I can't back it up) I heard was Watkins had the Canadian permits, authorization, or whatever you call it. FXF couldn't just start opening service centers there. We needed Watkins infrastructure.
Just my 2 cents.

Funny almost everything on the maintenance end of things is almost 100% ready to merge. All paperwork already has a box to mark for FXF or FXN. Most of our shops are now working on FXN stuff. It's happening faster than the FXW and FXE merge did (remember what they said,, "they would never combine E and W")
 
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