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OH Bob, he has been around for awhile, I think he started out as a driver in xau? I really laughed when he said here at con-way "we like to grow our own":couch::cool:
 
Lemme start by stating I mean no offense from the following.
As a graduate of a driving school myself, I often ponder why our company even needs a driving school. We should have qualified, experienced, knowledgeable, and dedicated drivers standing in line for a good paying, home every day freight job. But somehow we don't. I don't think the train em the way we want em applies. Nothing replaces an experienced and safe applicant.
 
smokin'joe said:
Lemme start by stating I mean no offense from the following.
As a graduate of a driving school myself, I often ponder why our company even needs a driving school. We should have qualified, experienced, knowledgeable, and dedicated drivers standing in line for a good paying, home every day freight job. But somehow we don't. I don't think the train em the way we want em applies. Nothing replaces an experienced and safe applicant.
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No offense intended but our schools are not standard issue driving schools. Our graduates produce safety stats above and beyond those hired off the street with knowledge and experience.
As far as applicants waiting in line... an article in one of the trade magazines this week says the turnover rate in the truckload sector was 89%. I thought this was bad but they say this is good. A turnover rate this high is an indicator of how many jobs are available and how many drivers are moving around within the industry to secure a better job. I say this because in the same article they state that turnover within LTL is less than 10%.
 
Not at our barn. We got newbies crashing way more than the oldies. And I know when the economy was hot, our turnover rate was sky high. As far as our school, I resigned as a trainer due to poor performing students still passing the class. Maybe different where you are at.
 
smokin'joe said:
Not at our barn. We got newbies crashing way more than the oldies. And I know when the economy was hot, our turnover rate was sky high. As far as our school, I resigned as a trainer due to poor performing students still passing the class. Maybe different where you are at.
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now how can "poor performing" students pass the class? It takes an 80% on written test to pass, a score of 270 to get pass mid-terms and there is always the state testing at the end. How does a poor performing student pass their state exam? Everything is documented in the student file from day one to day sixty. Sounds more like poor performing instructors. Just where is the school you resigned from?
 
Merdock said:
now how can "poor performing" students pass the class? It takes an 80% on written test to pass, a score of 270 to get pass mid-terms and there is always the state testing at the end. How does a poor performing student pass their state exam? Everything is documented in the student file from day one to day sixty. Sounds more like poor performing instructors. Just where is the school you resigned from?
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I was not an instructor but a street trainer for them through the class. Had many problems in simple aspects of vehicle operation, but like I said passed anyway. Location is irrelevant.
 
I wonder how many of the grads still work here. One of them not long ago one of them put it in the middle on I-75 in Akron. I was told that he told the cop that he fell asleep. I guess they are not giving intelligence testing before they get hired.
 
they pass everyone at our barn, we had one crash in the yard, 5 grand damage to the tractor and they still put him throught the school, it is a joke,
 
Dodge Ram said:
I wonder how many of the grads still work here. One of them not long ago one of them put it in the middle on I-75 in Akron. I was told that he told the cop that he fell asleep. I guess they are not giving intelligence testing before they get hired.
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Lol, he's been driving for over a decade. Show me a Linehaul driver who hasn't nodded off.
 
Dodge Ram said:
I wonder how many of the grads still work here. One of them not long ago one of them put it in the middle on I-75 in Akron. I was told that he told the cop that he fell asleep. I guess they are not giving intelligence testing before they get hired.
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We all get sleepy. At the bottom of the board.... he probably had to work the city before he got the run. Was likely pretty tired. The safety culture is a joke. You can't be safe when you are constantly exhausted. It is bad for the company and the general public. Let alone the driver, but none of you actually care about your fellow driver. Stick him with it. It's his fault for being new.

Also, 75 don't go through Akron. 77 and 76 do.
 
oop's your right, my mistake. I was fatigued and I was trying to hurry and go to bed so I can get back to work and try to remember all of their safety rules. I get tired just trying to remember all of them.
 
Merdock said:
now how can "poor performing" students pass the class? It takes an 80% on written test to pass, a score of 270 to get pass mid-terms and there is always the state testing at the end. How does a poor performing student pass their state exam? Everything is documented in the student file from day one to day sixty. Sounds more like poor performing instructors. Just where is the school you resigned from?
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These "instructors" show them how to get by the testing and show the "basics". As long as you have been driving, you know this......If you drive. The real world vs. the "schooling" is not as cookie cutter as you want it to sound. One student I had was not ready for the road on his own. Some take longer than others to learn, but not in Con-ways eyes. I had to call up north on this particular student......turns out he still drives today but not for Con-way. He stilll contacts me for advise and turns out he is pretty safe. Dont take it that I am patting myself on the back, point is the training program is not what you claim in your post. Seasoned drivers may have "habits" and Con-way does not like a Seasoned driver to tell them about the real world. Drivers are easily replaced with a student promised a dream job. The new and improved con-way..
 
Ask about one particular ride along pansy out of xco.........could not get by a week or so without crashing up something.....now he grades people on their performance? He knows nothing about driving truck and I helped teach him (my mistake xco!) Amazing! Now thats some phunny sheet! Go back to the parts store!
Take my advise........do not let ur "friends" know about ur job. They **** on you! Quickly too!
 
Dodge Ram said:
I wonder how many of the grads still work here. One of them not long ago one of them put it in the middle on I-75 in Akron. I was told that he told the cop that he fell asleep. I guess they are not giving intelligence testing before they get hired.
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thats pretty hard to do for the fact that I75 does not go thru Akron!!
 
companyclown said:
These "instructors" show them how to get by the testing and show the "basics". As long as you have been driving, you know this......If you drive. The real world vs. the "schooling" is not as cookie cutter as you want it to sound. One student I had was not ready for the road on his own. Some take longer than others to learn, but not in Con-ways eyes. I had to call up north on this particular student......turns out he still drives today but not for Con-way. He stilll contacts me for advise and turns out he is pretty safe. Dont take it that I am patting myself on the back, point is the training program is not what you claim in your post. Seasoned drivers may have "habits" and Con-way does not like a Seasoned driver to tell them about the real world. Drivers are easily replaced with a student promised a dream job. The new and improved con-way..
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I disagree. If you were part of the city ride-along then you had a student for three days. Those three days are very specific in regards to teaching, mentoring, and coaching. At the end of those three days the student is not ready to be on their own... that is what the ride-along is for. His challenges should have been communicated to the instructor so continual improve could occur for the student. Remember it's a 12 week course, and while there may be a few terminals with schools that need some more "Train the Trainer" sessions, overall the school is everything I posted. The way you finish your post tells me you are the last driver I would pair a student with.
 
Merdock said:
I disagree. If you were part of the city ride-along then you had a student for three days. Those three days are very specific in regards to teaching, mentoring, and coaching. At the end of those three days the student is not ready to be on their own... that is what the ride-along is for. His challenges should have been communicated to the instructor so continual improve could occur for the student. Remember it's a 12 week course, and while there may be a few terminals with schools that need some more "Train the Trainer" sessions, overall the school is everything I posted. The way you finish your post tells me you are the last driver I would pair a student with.
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Ironically, I was one of the best trainers they had at XCO. One of the first as well. I would be afraid to imagine what you would teach a new driver. Ask about some of the students I had....I am sure you have your connections. All but 1 didnt make it as mentioned b4 and 1 should have never been through the program to begin with. Should have stayed at the parts store.
The rest are top notch safe drivers, period! Check it out....
 
Merdock I have to disagree with you when it comes to our training program,when we started here you had to have five years verified experience and for good reason.Con-Way thinks they have reinvented the wheel when it comes to training but its nothing new,Schneider had one of the best training facilities in the country and shut it down due to cost of wrecked equipment and the money invested to train.It only stands to reason that a new driver is gonna have bumps and bruises along the way to gaining experience,pulling doubles with a single axle tractor is not the place to start for most people,with our new accident policy alot will wash out before they even get started unless Con-Way implements a special policy for newbies and that would be par for the course.
Merdock said:
I disagree. If you were part of the city ride-along then you had a student for three days. Those three days are very specific in regards to teaching, mentoring, and coaching. At the end of those three days the student is not ready to be on their own... that is what the ride-along is for. His challenges should have been communicated to the instructor so continual improve could occur for the student. Remember it's a 12 week course, and while there may be a few terminals with schools that need some more "Train the Trainer" sessions, overall the school is everything I posted. The way you finish your post tells me you are the last driver I would pair a student with.
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