Can I be required to work on a saturday when it is not a regular work day? Im #2 10% and have only worked 3 days this week. Saturday work is not any kind of bid and it also changes to sunday if to many people complain about not being offered the work on saturday. They do not work every Saturday by the way. It is mostly what the top seniority guys want to do. I was told tonight to be back at 5am saturday for work. I could use the money but its the fact that they did'nt ask at the start of my shift,11am. The TM said I would have to use a sick day because Saturday is a scheduled work day. Which it is not,imyo, because it changes between Saturday and Sunday, depending. We are not a 24/7 barn either if it matters. Any opinions would be appreciated. Plan on going to the hall on Monday to see what they have to say but are BA is a POS so I know where that'll go. Any advice?? By the way, Saturday or Sunday work is never posted. Thanks
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Since you did not work the whole week, the answer is yes, they can force you to work on the weekend. (Up here they can, anyway.) If you are a driver, you still need your 10 hours off before your next punch though. If you had something really hot going on this weekend, spend one of those sick days that you just received.
We had the same thing happen at abf a few months ago. They stopped offering the 6th punch in seniority order so we filed on it and lost. Now it goes by who dident get a full week. abf dosent charge you with a sick day but when i was at roadway they did and the way the union is leaving the company do whatever they want it dont look good. But call the hall and ask your rules may be diffrent than ours?
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At Indy they said 10 percenters owed them 5 starts. So they would lay a few out on a slow week day so they could work them Saturday on straight time. Sunday is a new week and they never tried to force anyone in on Sunday. I have to think that they would have if they could They haven't done this in a while but that's the deal.
At my terminal, the top guys pretty much decide what day there will be work, Saturday or Sunday. I did have 3 punches this week though, not that it really matters. 10%'s are never given the choice of Saturday work, even though we didn't get a full week, it always goes from the top down. Kind of get the feeling I should have chosen a different battle. LOL!! By the way, no supervisors ever come in on weekends, my understanding is that one needs to be present.
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Are you saying that even though the top seniority guys worked all five days, they come in on overtime, on the weekend? And you 10%ers didn't even get your five days in? I know that at my terminal, a Saturday shift qualifies under "premium work", which is paid as 100% overtime. If this is the case, your terminal manager is an idiot, and should be fired. And your top seniority guys are pathetic.
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We have a guy who has come in when they wanted to close the terminal (eg. Day after Christmas on a Friday) just so a supervisor has to show up.
Saturdays are only premium for bid men. Straight time employees have seniority over premium time employees around here so you would have priority over the top guys if you wanted to work.
Saturdays are only premium for bid men. Straight time employees have seniority over premium time employees around here so you would have priority over the top guys if you wanted to work.
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I think that you mean priority, not seniority. But, we knew what you meant.
That's also what we have here. And the TM's should be using straight time employees instead of fattening up the hog board.
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Yes but it is effectively seniority when a guy who comes in early picks(semi bids pick their peddle runs by seniority) behind a junior man. So we always call it seniority in those situations.
Ive been here for 6yrs,laid off maybe 1 1/2yrs in that time, and have worked one other saturday. And yes, are #1 man on the board works every Sat. or Sun. if he wants. If he or #3 dont want to work a Sat./Sun. then suddenly there is no work. HMMM. These guys average at least 50hrs a week, not including the weekend. #1 has the TM convinced that he needs to start his shift at 3am instead of the 4am bid time. When I or another 10% cover this bid we're told to be in at 4am not 3am. Thanks for listening,just getting fed up with the b.s. around my term. and need to vent. And I do appreciate being offered sat. work since i didn't get 5 clicks, its just the fact that they waited til 5pm to tell us to be in at 5am Sat. instead of telling us at the start of our shift like they have done normally.
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My barn has just started sunday at 3 am,one guy working 8hrs alone,on the dock breaking inbound and hostling, with no supervisors,what about safety ?
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This is a little off topic.
We just had a posting on Friday.....offering Line haul turns to us City drivers, if we had the hours available. They must have been trying to get the system caught back up from the big snow storm. Nobody signed up though. Most of us don't have the hours available. And the ones who did have hours available, have a life.
We just had a posting on Friday.....offering Line haul turns to us City drivers, if we had the hours available. They must have been trying to get the system caught back up from the big snow storm. Nobody signed up though. Most of us don't have the hours available. And the ones who did have hours available, have a life.
Funny you mention that posting. One of our local road drivers told our TM to take it down or he would file. I new the that we couldn't run road in Southern Conference. I had a good laugh seeing the city hands get all excited. We are behind about 30-40 loads going up through the system.
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Since we have guys laid off and on LOA throughout the system, and can't or won't come back because of the lack of job security, you would think that some of them would consider a transfer into Memphis if they were given the opportunity. But, because of the fact that they would be hired like a new hire and lose everything except their Teamsters credit, most probably wouldn't transfer. But, even if you only got a few that were willing to relocate to feed their family, it could help your driver shortage. (I hate seeing freight not moving like it should be.)
