Yellow | Update Tank Endorsements

The way the regulation was worded is the problem. The intent was not to require tank endorsements for those who may carry one or more "totes" capable of meeting the definition described in the regs, however, even though law enforcement is aware of this snafu, it is in there. They, and the industry are working to get the reg re-written to reflect what was intended. For now though, it wouldn't hurt to get your tank endorsement just in case.
 
I got my tank endorsement when the license changed from a Class A to a cdl, I figured wth, I may need it someday.
 
Same here. I took all the tests, at the union hall in fact. Still keep my CDL even though I don't really drive anymore. You just never know....
 
The way the regulation was worded is the problem. The intent was not to require tank endorsements for those who may carry one or more "totes" capable of meeting the definition described in the regs, however, even though law enforcement is aware of this snafu, it is in there. They, and the industry are working to get the reg re-written to reflect what was intended. For now though, it wouldn't hurt to get your tank endorsement just in case.

For 94% of the lower 48 contiguous states, this may be true, but in "lovely" over regulated CA, it may require drivers take ALL of their tests, Hazmat, air brakes, doubles/triples, pre-trip and driving, not to mention passenger and ANY additional certs one has on their license; e. g. motorcycle, bus/passenger. Hopefully, those members that do not presently have tanker endorsement, will be grandfathered in and be allowed to take the written test only to receive certification.

Imagine the complexity of finding some tanker truck to use for testing, should this legislation remain in effect.

CA has THREE definitions of "tanker" in the vehicle code, there is no way they can figure this out.
 
For 94% of the lower 48 contiguous states, this may be true, but in "lovely" over regulated CA, it may require drivers take ALL of their tests, Hazmat, air brakes, doubles/triples, pre-trip and driving, not to mention passenger and ANY additional certs one has on their license; e. g. motorcycle, bus/passenger. Hopefully, those members that do not presently have tanker endorsement, will be grandfathered in and be allowed to take the written test only to receive certification.

Imagine the complexity of finding some tanker truck to use for testing, should this legislation remain in effect.

CA has THREE definitions of "tanker" in the vehicle code, there is no way they can figure this out.

There is no grandfathering. FMCSA denied the ATA request and basically said drivers have had time to get the endorsement.

It looks like they (FMCSA) plan on not doing anything on the regulatory front even though they agreed to a proposed rule making earlier this year to fix the definition. It looks like the plan is to wait until everyone complies and then decide there is no need to change the definition.
 
For 94% of the lower 48 contiguous states, this may be true, but in "lovely" over regulated CA, it may require drivers take ALL of their tests, Hazmat, air brakes, doubles/triples, pre-trip and driving, not to mention passenger and ANY additional certs one has on their license; e. g. motorcycle, bus/passenger. Hopefully, those members that do not presently have tanker endorsement, will be grandfathered in and be allowed to take the written test only to receive certification.

Imagine the complexity of finding some tanker truck to use for testing, should this legislation remain in effect.

CA has THREE definitions of "tanker" in the vehicle code, there is no way they can figure this out.

I took the tanker test when I took my original CDL. Was easy enough and no maintenance on it like their is with the HAZ mat or school bus. Would one have to take a driving test for a tanker endorsement? And if they had to I would say that the test would be worthless if the tank wasn't a half full barrel with no baffles.
 
I took the tanker test when I took my original CDL. Was easy enough and no maintenance on it like their is with the HAZ mat or school bus. Would one have to take a driving test for a tanker endorsement? And if they had to I would say that the test would be worthless if the tank wasn't a half full barrel with no baffles.

I believe, in CA, that when one renews one's license, it can be upgraded at the time to an additional endorsement.

CA D/L's are good for five years. If one has recently renewed and chooses to add an additional endorsement, therein lies the issue of retaking all of the written tests and the driving test.
Most of those on our board have all endorsements, including triples, which do not run in CA. There are a few that did not see the need to have a tanker endorsement at the time they took their original CDL.

These are for whom I speak.

IF I should choose to add a passenger endorsement to my license right now, I would have to take all of the written tests again, but I could slip by the driving test with a small 20 passenger van, meeting the "bus" definition, but avoiding the air brakes test and more involved tractor trailer pre-trip test.

Maybe to qualify for the tanker driving test, one could secure a tote bin in the back of a pickup and satisfy the definition.....
 
I took the tanker test when I took my original CDL. Was easy enough and no maintenance on it like their is with the HAZ mat or school bus. Would one have to take a driving test for a tanker endorsement? And if they had to I would say that the test would be worthless if the tank wasn't a half full barrel with no baffles.

Probably only have to take the driving test if you have tickets to get the tanker endorsement
 
Probably only have to take the driving test if you have tickets to get the tanker endorsement

Just got my CDL renewed. I have tanker on my CDL, and have had for 20 years. I have never had to take a test regarding the tanker endorsement. Even when I pulling a gas tanker and a few tickets, never had to take a test. Only for Haz Mat.

Study, pass test, then relax people!!
 
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