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Hello everyone.

Question i have in mind to ask is.

Who do u think will have the new higher paying wage, starting off in the next contract.

1. Small Package current $8.50 hour

2. UPS Freight part-time dock worker $10.50

In mine opinion both of those wages are a joke..... Hey Ups here what we think of those starting wages . :nut_kick: :fingure:
 
how high exactly do you expect anyone to start part timers out at?
they are part time workers, the starting wages for them is fair right now. freight starts part timers out higher because they run a forklift .

the number thats insultingly low is the starting wage for full time dock workers, and the amount of time it takes to reach top rate.
full time starting wage is right around 15.00 a hour , and you must have CDL with tanker,hazmat,double/triple endorsements even as a dockworker to get hired full time. anyone with those qualifications can get a better paying job then 15.00 a hour at any company to start out . and it takes 3 years from your hire date to reach top rate. granted the top rate for us right now is the highest of any teamster organized company.

and the company wonder why they cant find decent full time workers..
 
Who cares what new hires are paid!

Let new hires do their time just like I did! But give me my raises I put my time in!!!
Gideon129 said:
how high exactly do you expect anyone to start part timers out at?
they are part time workers, the starting wages for them is fair right now. freight starts part timers out higher because they run a forklift .

the number thats insultingly low is the starting wage for full time dock workers, and the amount of time it takes to reach top rate.
full time starting wage is right around 15.00 a hour , and you must have CDL with tanker,hazmat,double/triple endorsements even as a dockworker to get hired full time. anyone with those qualifications can get a better paying job then 15.00 a hour at any company to start out . and it takes 3 years from your hire date to reach top rate. granted the top rate for us right now is the highest of any teamster organized company.

and the company wonder why they cant find decent full time workers..
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What i see as a big joke is how the 1st and 2nd raises are small and then the third raise is around 7bux. Now that has to be addressed in new contract
 
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What i see as a big joke is how the 1st and 2nd raises are small and then the third raise is around 7bux. Now that has to be addressed in new contract
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I don't understand why they set up the progression scale the way they did. I think it should be a sliding scale based on a certain percentage of top pay, like master freight.
 
The type of part timers they hire, I think they are overpaid. Most of them are 18 year old druggies that don't even show up to work half the time.
 
Two men doing the same work, with the same responsibilities should be paid the same. This "progression pay scale" is a rip-off, who does it benefit? The company, it certainly doesn't improve anything but the "bottom line".

A new driver running the same route as a 30 year driver but getting much less. What is fair about this? A new hire or a part-timer humping freight along beside an old senior dock worker and the senior dock worker is making twice as much, but the new hire is doing the same amount of work, lifting the same boxes, stacking the same freight and probably doing more than the "old man" is doing, but being "ripped off" by the company.
 
part timers only work 4 hours min a day to max 6 hours, they are only allowed to work 6 if there is OT posted for full timers. so if the part timers are putting in half the time and they aren't expected to keep the same pace as a full timer they deserve half the pay.

and part timers that put in the time do get to a decent rate. if i recall part time top rate is 15 and change, that's pretty good money for a part time job.
 
Thanks for the reply's back so far.

Not to rain on nobody's parade, but in Columbus, Ohio. Local 413 gave local management here the verbal ok. That if any part-timers don't have a second job or go to school for anything.

Then they are allowed to own our ass, and make us work up to 40 hours a week. Even if we don't like it or want it. And every part-timers we have , definitely the ones on my shift. They try to make us work harder than the full-timers. Doesn't matter your a new higher off probation or been here for 5-7 years. And we tell them u want us to work here for 40 hours or more and produce the same or more than full-timers, than your cheap ass needs to start paying a fulltime type wage.

And for those that say after 3years making 15.00 is good. Well our non-union -competitors are paying more.

In Columbus, Ohio.
1.Fed-Ex Freight. Starting pay between 14.60-15.60 hour

2. Dayton freight starting pay is almost 16.00 hour.

3. Saia- 1.5 wage progression. starts at 15.46-19.26 hour


And there is more i can list.

When i am making this statement not once is it to *****. I know what i was hired in at and getting coming up. I just made my 3 years. At the 15.00 hour now. woo-hoo is quess.

Just in my humble experience they are cheap bastard and next contract. should start a hell of lot better pay than this....
 
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Two men doing the same work, with the same responsibilities should be paid the same. This "progression pay scale" is a rip-off, who does it benefit? The company, it certainly doesn't improve anything but the "bottom line".

A new driver running the same route as a 30 year driver but getting much less. What is fair about this? A new hire or a part-timer humping freight along beside an old senior dock worker and the senior dock worker is making twice as much, but the new hire is doing the same amount of work, lifting the same boxes, stacking the same freight and probably doing more than the "old man" is doing, but being "ripped off" by the company.
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When I started with Overnite in '77, everyone started at top pay, there was no lower starting pay. The people that started the reduced pay for new employees was the Teamsters in the Master Freight Agreement in the early '80s. However it was based on a three year progression and you started at 75% of full pay, not less than 2/3 of full pay like we have now. I hope there is a major improvement in the starting pay rate in the new contract or we'll never have any quality new employees.
 
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