FedEx Freight | Mandatory 30 minute break

The law is you have to take it before the 8th hour period... So if you are pulled over by one of our finest, and you have over 8 hours without showing a thirty minute break. You will get a costly ticket. Pretty cut and dry... They will be trying to make that easy money...

Well, kinda. The regulations state you cannot drive after having 8 hours since your last break of 30 minutes or more. You can still be on duty for however long need be.

May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty
or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes.
 
Here's a question...are they going to let u use the 8 minute rule...say u arrive at 1305.....sign out for lunch.......sign in at 1325.....by DOT/ Logs you were logged at 1300-1330...do your TO at the meet and depart at 1337...this being the fact that we drivers that have meets...move our tractors to go to the truck stop or what ever.This is all just for a what if...scenario....

In California, it's a hard 30 minute rule. Some guys were taking their handheld into dispatch so they could hook and break on their lunch...warned that's "falsification" and grounds for immediate dismissal.
 
Well, kinda. The regulations state you cannot drive after having 8 hours since your last break of 30 minutes or more. You can still be on duty for however long need be.

It all boils down to a 30 minute break on or before your 8th hour... That is UPSF new policy that goes along with the new hours of service...
Of course that has nothing to do with working 14 hours a day if you want to...

Don't run sleeper, but I guess that pertains to them also. 30 minutes after eight hours of driving.
That is stinky...
 
We are currently not on paperless logs, therefore, taking the 30 min meal on handheld is irrelevant. As long as there's 30 min OFF Duty logged on your log before your 8th hour on duty, you are in compliance. At this time they don't care if you enter your meal on handheld. When it becomes a paperless log system it will matter. This is going to be interesting that's for sure. All shuttle drivers and anyone else who works the dock, will be losing almost $3000 a year. 2 1/2hrs a week adds up. Thank You Mr. President. This whole Hours of Service change has been brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and their Communist allies in the Anti-Trucking activists. They were trying to shorten the hours allowed to drive, so that union carriers would add more drivers, therefore, increasing the the union membership to line their pockets with $$$. The rouse of "safety" is a sham.
 
The law is you have to take it before the 8th hour period... So if you are pulled over by one of our finest, and you have over 8 hours without showing a thirty minute break. You will get a costly ticket. Pretty cut and dry... They will be trying to make that easy money...

personally I think it's all about ' The Money ' and nothing to do with safety.
 
The unit I drive, you have to take the key out. If you move, say to go to a better menu, the "meal" clock resets and the screen locks out. I use the "break timer," instead of the "meal clock," I drop out, do my business, pretrip, then set the clock back a half hour, wait if I have to, and then go. Working a shuttle, I just drop out, and then start the clock. I show a half hour break, do I take one? -no. If it's over 22 minutes, its a break to me. I was told you do not have to show it on the handheld- for now. Just do it, because someday- you will have to.

The majority of the time, my wand is still configuring when I get back to go home anyway, now what? I'm sure the DOT will understand, my gate was more important than finding a wand that works.
 
If you work 14 hours a day, taking your break before your 8th hour should be no problem. Taking it at the meet, or at your hub on a shuttle, what is so hard to understand? A half hour is not going to break me. It's not worth skipping, working nights- you better take naps, or it will catch up to you. Working my shuttle, I have no problem burning up my hour break, meal, plus my two fifteen minutes- I'm in no rush to pound the patio @ 90 degrees with 20 or so portable heat blowers in an enclosed arena. How many times do we hook in fifteen minutes or fuel in five, and still get the fixed pay of a half hour or fifteen minutes? We can thank those before us for abusing the break system paying dearly with an accident.

IMO, this is an OTR issue, not a linehaul/LTL issue, We are on a fixed schedule, most- not including the extraboard. Even our extraboard is a pretty much a fixed schedule, talk to a union company driver and see how their call block works. There is no a.m. or p.m. schedule like here. They are always on a 10 hour schedule. That's messed up. That's why you see them on the shoulders, getting sleep when they can.

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
 
Did he tell you where the camera is? Or when it is recording? I heard every time the unit goes out of lane, or follows to close, the camera records. Taking your hands off the wheel or leaning to far one way, a buzzer sounds, and the dash prompts you to "focus on driving." (Volvo's)

I'm sure this is not true, or is it? No more gold digging or urine bomb making, Probably shouldn't have used the word- bomb. I'm sure to get a visit from the IRS.

The black box will only record the units movement, no camera will be used to track the drivers movements or actions. I'm sure there will be a sign in the unit indicating you are being recorded, if this to occur, for now. The cameras everywhere else will do that. Welcome to England..
I know there are driver's that go to a meet at a truck stop and pull in and throw themselves on lunch, run the handheld inside and get it away from the truck and then go do all their work. Does this work to where it won't record you doing this? Our manager is trying to tell us there is a black box in the truck recording everything whether the vector is connected or not????? I want to find the quickest way to do this crap!
 
I always thought it was a 7 minute rule? You shouldn't be moving your tractor at meet point unless your meet guy is there. Central told me that we are to stay hook to the set until meet guy arrives.

your tractor is you transportation, it would be the same if you were laid down somewhere.
 
After reading this post wow I thought it was only at my yard, all the falsifying. There gonna be alot of drivers being fired for that with this new law it's not fed ex policy it's the law guys it's not worth it just take your break log it and enter it on the handheld I've been doing it for the past month just to get myself in the routine even though sometimes I can just turn and burn. I will take my 30 min break.
 
We are currently not on paperless logs, therefore, taking the 30 min meal on handheld is irrelevant. As long as there's 30 min OFF Duty logged on your log before your 8th hour on duty, you are in compliance. At this time they don't care if you enter your meal on handheld. When it becomes a paperless log system it will matter. This is going to be interesting that's for sure. All shuttle drivers and anyone else who works the dock, will be losing almost $3000 a year. 2 1/2hrs a week adds up. Thank You Mr. President. This whole Hours of Service change has been brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and their Communist allies in the Anti-Trucking activists. They were trying to shorten the hours allowed to drive, so that union carriers would add more drivers, therefore, increasing the the union membership to line their pockets with $$$. The rouse of "safety" is a sham.

Actually, the log is irrelevant. You have to enter the lunch in your handheld, at least in CA. If you move your tractor, it kicks you off your lunch. Then the lunch police have something terrible to say. I know a Ca driver who says he was suspended for 3 days and placed on probation because he left his hand held in dispatch logged on lunch and went out to hook his homebound set. He says he was told the 30 minute lunch you can't do any paid task.

ST
 
Actually, the log is irrelevant. You have to enter the lunch in your handheld, at least in CA. If you move your tractor, it kicks you off your lunch. Then the lunch police have something terrible to say. I know a Ca driver who says he was suspended for 3 days and placed on probation because he left his hand held in dispatch logged on lunch and went out to hook his homebound set. He says he was told the 30 minute lunch you can't do any paid task.

ST
Yea its in CA, have to be on your best behavior
 
We're being told that they're working on the handheld to let you run your truck and move around in a turn point or yard for about 10 miles before it kicks you out of lunch.
 
Why would you want to work on your lunch or break?

If it gets you home faster, I would do it too. That 30 is just adding to your day, and not getting paid for it. I'd do the same thing..just get home. That's the goal. I wouldn't work the dock or move any freitht, but I would hook so I could get the hell out of there.
 
If it gets you home faster, I would do it too. That 30 is just adding to your day, and not getting paid for it. I'd do the same thing..just get home. That's the goal. I wouldn't work the dock or move any freitht, but I would hook so I could get the hell out of there.

I got you...
 
You can do what you want on your lunch. Just tell them you like a leisurely drive at lunchtime. Even though it might be your way home.
 
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