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FedEx Freight | YRC/Dallas Meeting

fartknocker said:
So,what's that got to do with us? We aren't YRC and their problems aren't ours.
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Fartknocker, the union's problems are industry wide. Deregulation has caused issues for all of us, and the union's failure to deal with said has been a problem that needs to be addressed by everyone in the trucking business. As Eldridge Cleaver once said: "You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem."

So how do we solve the issue? New work rules that allow companies the flexibility to save money and move freight efficiently and profitably. Productivity and profitability are not four letter words. They are in fact the lifeblood of a company, from which wages and benefits flow to all the employee's. Union work rules have been killing companies for 33 years since deregulation, and no one in the union has the guts to address the issue and talk about it to save the union.

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Why do you say "the " union as if it is the only one . I think you mean "the" Teamsters. Many of my family members are union members and are extremely happy to be so. They make a good livable wage, enjoy enviable benefits and retirement packages. In addition, the companies they work for are very stable and profitable. Just because the Teamsters are historically the union of choice for transportation, doesn't mean they are the only one. The pilots at Fedex are members of an "association" but I would argue that it operates much the same as a union and they are better off for it.

Food for thought. I really don't have a dog in the fight and won't take a position either way anymore.
 
Truckdriver79 said:
The problems at YRC aren't in any way a product of the Union.
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the teamster union leadership gave full support for the purchase of Roadway and the USF companys. the leadership had zero concern for the membership job security.the leadership should have fought the purchase to protect the jobs that the monopoly created.
 
To echo what FDV said the Teamsters aren't the only union. My point is basically the same as his, the fact that YRC is in the shape it is in is not because the employees are organized. Silent Trucker seems to think otherwise.
 
YRC's biggest problem right now is refinancing its current loans. The banks are enjoying interest rates a few points under what your local loan shark is charging, plus there are two balloon payments due one in 2014 and one in 2015. An extension to the current concessions package is a no brainier. Probably until 2019. Without this and probably more the banks will accomplish what the non union companies couldn't do in 2011. TP
 
Twice Pipes said:
YRC's biggest problem right now is refinancing its current loans. The banks are enjoying interest rates a few points under what your local loan shark is charging, plus there are two balloon payments due one in 2014 and one in 2015. An extension to the current concessions package is a no brainier. Probably until 2019. Without this and probably more the banks will accomplish what the non union companies couldn't do in 2011. TP
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The Banks!!! Wow now its their fault, what where the banks supposed to do give YRC AAA credit rating with zero percent financing. Half the lenders I bet would not have touched YRC with a tenfoot cattle prod. Everyone out there including YRC employees Know YRC bit off more then they could chew buying out so many companies with next to no money. They certainly had no business buying out USF, that company is not what they used to be.
 
silent trucker said:
Fartknocker, the union's problems are industry wide. Deregulation has caused issues for all of us, and the union's failure to deal with said has been a problem that needs to be addressed by everyone in the trucking business. As Eldridge Cleaver once said: "You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem."

So how do we solve the issue? New work rules that allow companies the flexibility to save money and move freight efficiently and profitably. Productivity and profitability are not four letter words. They are in fact the lifeblood of a company, from which wages and benefits flow to all the employee's. Union work rules have been killing companies for 33 years since deregulation, and no one in the union has the guts to address the issue and talk about it to save the union.
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Keep telling yourself that. Ignorance is bliss
 
FDV said:
Why do you say "the " union as if it is the only one . I think you mean "the" Teamsters. Many of my family members are union members and are extremely happy to be so. They make a good livable wage, enjoy enviable benefits and retirement packages. In addition, the companies they work for are very stable and profitable. Just because the Teamsters are historically the union of choice for transportation, doesn't mean they are the only one. The pilots at Fedex are members of an "association" but I would argue that it operates much the same as a union and they are better off for it.

Food for thought. I really don't have a dog in the fight and won't take a position either way anymore.
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The stability and profitability comes from a variety of things, including saturation of the market. If you provide a good or service with a unionized workforce and have no competition, then of course you're going to be profitable and stable. The ltl industry is an oversaturated market, making competition stiffer and profit margins slimmer. The union isn't the only problem at YRC, but I sure don't think it helps. But by the same token, it doesn't take a union shop to lose money either. Look at Vitran...
 
yrc-atm said:
Keep telling yourself that. Ignorance is bliss
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You spend most of your time on the YRC board bad mouthing both YRC and the union, and then you come over here to take a swipe or two at anyone who doesn't think joining you and the misery that is yours...interesting way to live life.

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pullintriples said:
Ok let address it…..Please explain to me how work rules have killed YRC.
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The problem with union work rules is they're not productive enough. They have road drivers standing around watching others hook their sets, just to name one. Smartest thing my barn did was eliminate the 3 full time hostler positions we had. 50 door terminal with 2 full time morning guys and a full time pm guy. The morning guys spent 7 hours a day sitting in the yard goat talking, and about an hour actually working. The pm guy had to move 10 or 12 trailers and hook 6 outbound sets. Wow! Such productivity, then we went away from the union style model and the road drivers hook/break pull/put away all the trailers. Huge savings to the company.

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silent trucker said:
The problem with union work rules is they're not productive enough. They have road drivers standing around watching others hook their sets, just to name one. Smartest thing my barn did was eliminate the 3 full time hostler positions we had. 50 door terminal with 2 full time morning guys and a full time pm guy. The morning guys spent 7 hours a day sitting in the yard goat talking, and about an hour actually working. The pm guy had to move 10 or 12 trailers and hook 6 outbound sets. Wow! Such productivity, then we went away from the union style model and the road drivers hook/break pull/put away all the trailers. Huge savings to the company.

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I worked at a union barn for a long time and watched the yard guys drop inbound sets, fuel the tractors, and then retook out bound sets usually in 30-45 minutes. Fred pays us 1.25 hours for doing this. And those road drivers standing around where not getting paid a dime unless they were past their "gate" time, kinda just like us!!!!

The whole hostler point you made is ridiculous, we have three at my barn in the AM. One helps the road guys break their sets, one talks on his phone and the other plays Candy Crush. At smaller union barns like your talking about the hostler runs out of work, he goes up on the dock and moves freight. At Fedex they spend just as much time screwing off as Union barns.
 
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