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Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.
 
Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.

Your entitled to your opinion. You chose to vote yes I didn't.
 
The proposal gives the company unlimited power to immediately replace an unknown number of union employees with non union contractors. The proposal in no way limits the number of employees that could lose their jobs because the company prefers to use a contractor rather than an hourly employee.

They should have known better.
 
Well I disagree with you on this , as 3 of the 4 companies are making money , banks/lenders would look at that too, and YRCW has told us so many lies over the years , that what do you believe anymore , but Good Luck to you and a YES vote , and guess we will see in Jan & Feb how this turns out ?? and as for the union WHY are we paying them $1.3 million a month in DUE'S to be NEUTRAL on this ?? but the main thing is to mail in your VOTE , yes or no , just vote
 
Teamsters89.com.... Local 89 Freight Teamsters Say No To More Company Bailouts.... local 89 Executive Board Recommends Rejection Of Proposed YRC Concessions.... Vote No!
 
Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.
you must be retireing with in 1 or 2 yrs
 
Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.

I'm not saying what you think to be true is not.... Please do what no other yes voter can do.... Post a link to the information that you have provided..... You cannot.... They have never said they were going to close with a no vote.... If you cannot post a link, everything you just posted is "GARBAGE"
 
The proposal gives the company unlimited power to immediately replace an unknown number of union employees with non union contractors. The proposal in no way limits the number of employees that could lose their jobs because the company prefers to use a contractor rather than an hourly employee.

They should have known better.

What proposal did you read that says that?
 
What proposal did you read that says that?

(h) Service Area: There are certain geographic areas where YRC Freight
historically has had low shipment density and/or driver shortages, which
prevents YRC Freight from providing consistent levels of service and
maintaining a profitable operation. YRC Freight must address these areas
through the use of interline carriers while providing maximum protection and
alternative work opportunities to employees.

Notwithstanding any other subcontracting restriction in the NMFA, YRC
Freight shall be permitted to close terminals and/or discontinue specific
terminal operations and thereafter continue servicing that geographic area by
use of an interlining subcontractor. Any such terminal closure or partial
closure shall be subject to an approved Change of Operations. Affected
employees at the terminal operations subject to this provision shall receive all
protections afforded under the Change of Operations procedure and offered
work opportunities at the closest terminal with demonstrated need for
employees in the relevant classifications. Moving expenses shall be paid in
accordance with established Change of Operations practices.

YRC Freight shall monitor those geographic areas where it is using interline
subcontractors. YRC Freight will discontinue the use of interline
subcontractors in those areas where sustained business levels and/or the
number of YRC Freight drivers in the relevant locations establish a long-term
business case for resuming operations.​
 
Benefits!

Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.

What part of your point(8) do you enjoy about the benefit package?
The week you already gave up?
The 10 hours less vacation pay?
The reduced pension payment?
The 15 percent give back on wages?
Just curious.:1036316054:
 
What proposal did you read that says that?
where it says they can out source 6% of line haul with nobody to monitor how much is outsourced and where it says that they can interline city P&D Dels. routes to Mom & Pop cartage companies and just remember this is how Conway started with CF was taking a little bit of freight away weekly till the end , plus the UNION is NOT going to monitor how much freight is being hauled by shiny wheel truckers !!! you open this door and they are going to run with it ??? just wait and see ???
 
Local #375? The jokers that have folded the local for their own future security? I'd be REAL proud of that. The same guys that use to stand up and holler at the meetings and now couldn't say s@#t if they had a mouthful? These guys have forgotten what it's like to be in the seat. They are no different than the clowns that use to be in power. I can't think of one single thing they have changed since they have been in office. These guys ask management labor what they think when their is a problem. So as far as I'm concerned, anything 375 says is a F%^king joke.......
 
Let me preface this with I cant talk about what I post on here when I am through. I have already been "scolded" for my past posts. Leadership at #375 is in agreement with these statements.
1. a no vote will bring a bankruptcy filing within 2 weeks to a month of the tally. -----that's the bad news.
"The GOOD NEWS"
2. With a yes vote the current lenders will be done. They will be forgiving YRCW $400 million dollars and they will be given some form of equity for their debt forgiveness.
3.The new lenders will be refinancing at a lower interest rate. I don't know who the salesman was but it must have been one hell of a sales pitch. " buddy do I gotta deal for you"
4. This plan is THE ONLY one that even has a chance of pulling this out of debt. THE ONLY ONE. The IBT's consultants they hired agree. No one is saying this is the magic bullet but the only chance that they have.
5. These were not negotiations in the normal sense. The IBT YRCW current lenders and the new lenders all sat down and the new lenders told all parties involved what kind of numbers they needed for this to go forward.----TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
6. The 3 million shares are a partial down payment on the bond payment seeing that this wont be completed until later.
7. The ABL credit line that they have on hand can not be used to pay off the bond payment. You cant take the cash the creditors give you for operations and then pay off the bond holders with it.
8. True you probably can find a job with comparable pay but you wont find the benefit package that we presently enjoy.
9. The debt has increased from 1.2 to 1.4 billion from the inability to make 100% of the interest payments.
10. Welch's so called "plan b" was taken entirely out of context. He had to cover for Piersons statement about bankruptcy.
11.Some of the lenders do not care if we vote yes or no. They have received $750 million + - in interest and will make out with the liquidation. So vote yes and their happy and vote no and they don't care either.
12. The regionals will not be sold.

Guys that's it. I voted YES. It is still on my countertop. Lets put it this way. I WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO SEND MY VOTE IN and not let it sit there. Can you understand why the IBT has not taken a stand???????????
If they endorse this then we tell them you shoved a substandard contract down our throat. If they tell us to vote no and they shut the doors then we blame them for the doors shutting. So it's a no win situation for them ( and us ).
If you think I talk to people to help out my fellow "BROTHERS" guess again. I try to find the truth out to keep "MY FAMILY" taken care of and out of harms way.
If I can share some of my information with my "BROTHERS" and they find it helpful than I am glad to do it. But again that is not my motivation. I am tired of trying to tell people the truth and then being **** on for it. 3 years of this crap at St.Johnsbury, 5 years of this crap here----I AM TIRED OF IT !!!!!!!!!! I use to tell the guys at St.Johnsbury the truth too. Same thing ---YOU'RE A LIAR!
I have never been a conformist and I am not going to change now. What's it say in Proverb's "wisdom cries aloud in the streets but no one will listen" or something like that. My son's in prison, I have his family living here with us so I don't really have much time for BS. If you want to call me names go right ahead it's a free country. But after thinking long and hard about this for 4 days I felt I could not lay my head down at night without at least sharing this with you.
AS I was told ---with a no vote it's over with a yes vote they have a chance.
Do what you want.

Your source ( or sources ) also inferred that we would be getting a 7% raise and a weeks vacation back.
 
President Hoffa says we have a contract til 2015.So thats what im going with.Company can go make adjustments.Quit reneging on our contract.Company debt is not my debt.Thank God..if all is true

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They have been interlining in remote areas for years with local non union carriers. That is nothing new.[/QUOT

I have never seen a none union carrier pulling a Holland trailer.... I have never seen a none union carrier come to our terminal and take city freight out to deliver.... I hope this gets vote down so I will never see anything like that..... That alone should have gotten 100% no votes.
 
They have been interlining in remote areas for years with local non union carriers. That is nothing new.

It strikes me as illogical to on the one hand believe this agreement is critical to the survival of the company, and on the other hand to believe that some aspect of it is just business as usual.
 
They have been interlining in remote areas for years with local non union carriers. That is nothing new.[/QUOT

I have never seen a none union carrier pulling a Holland trailver.... I have never seen a none union carrier come to our terminal and take city freight out to deliver.... I hope this gets vote down so I will never see anything like that..... That alone should have gotten 100% no votes.

Never said anything about Holland. Generally yrc would take the freight on a yrc trailer to the interline carrier term
 
I think YRC is C.T.D. I don't think it will matter how you vote. Should have never let them take away the first time. Stock options LOL!
 
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