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Really? How do you know there isn't any coercion? Were you at the location? Your opinions are not facts.

Do this or else?

And if a union representative spoke that way to a member before or during a voting process that is called coercion.

Coercion | Define Coercion at Dictionary.com

Which by-the-way is illegal activity conducted by a union representative and a major ethics violation, if in fact that did happen according to his post.

Then, KK brings-up some IBT Constitution condoning the actions are legal, and you calling me confused?

The members voted down a supplement that was then put into effect by the IBT anyway. That is what the thread is about. They werent coerced into voting one way or the other. What the IBT did, although I dont believe its right, is not illegal nor against the IBT constitution. The IBT constitution can be changed at the convention by the delegates who are elected by the membership. Nothing that took place has anything to do with civil rights, federal law, or anything else you want to make up.
 
The members voted down a supplement that was then put into effect by the IBT anyway. That is what the thread is about. They werent coerced into voting one way or the other. What the IBT did, although I dont believe its right, is not illegal nor against the IBT constitution. The IBT constitution can be changed at the convention by the delegates who are elected by the membership. Nothing that took place has anything to do with civil rights, federal law, or anything else you want to make up.
Again, you like to speak your opinion, which your entitled to do. I was replying to someone's post. Oh and I am not making anything up, because when someone choses to post a statement like this.............


union works just like a non-union company saying do this or else !!!

See that statement yrc-atm, that is called evidence, and I was replying to his concern. So it isn't made-up on my part, and your statement of accusing me of making something up is totally irrelevant.
 
Again, you like to speak your opinion, which your entitled to do. I was replying to someone's post. Oh and I am not making anything up, because when someone choses to post a statement like this.............




See that statement yrc-atm, that is called evidence, and I was replying to his concern. So it isn't made-up on my part, and your statement of accusing me of making something up is totally irrelevant.

If Louisville UPS members were coerced, then why was the supplement still voted down necessitating the IBT to invoke executive powers to enact the supplement anyway? If they were coerced then the supplement would have passed with the vote. You are confused
 
If Louisville UPS members were coerced, then why was the supplement still voted down necessitating the IBT to invoke executive powers to enact the supplement anyway? If they were coerced then the supplement would have passed with the vote. You are confused
No you are confused, because I never stated that they were or were not coerced. The only person who is making things up is you.
 
No you are confused, because I never stated that they were or were not coerced. The only person who is making things up is you.

YOU SAID THEY WERE COERCED! You even gave a link to the dictionaries definition of coercion. Now I dont think you are confused, you're just off your rocker.
 
YOU SAID THEY WERE COERCED! You even gave a link to the dictionaries definition of coercion. Now I dont think you are confused, you're just off your rocker.
:LMAO: Weak!

Yeah well IMO, if you knew anything about Civil Rights you would probably not be a 25% Teamster for the next five years neither, but that is your choice not mine. :LMAO:
 
:LMAO: Weak!

Yeah well IMO, if you knew anything about Civil Rights you would probably not be a 25% Teamster for the next five years neither, but that is your choice not mine. :LMAO:

If it was my choice then how were my civil rights violated?
 
If it was my choice then how were my civil rights violated?
Did I specifically say to you yrc-atm, that your civil rights were violated? No I did not, but don't worry the union will let you know when your rights or civil rights for that matter are violated.

Now keep paying the dues, don't ask questions, and learn some sustainability. :LMAO:
 
Did I specifically say to you yrc-atm, that your civil rights were violated? No I did not, but don't worry the union will let you know when your rights or civil rights for that matter are violated.

Now keep paying the dues, don't ask questions, and learn some sustainability. :LMAO:

Yes you did say that. You need meds. Or need to get off drugs.
 
Sounds like coercion and an unfair labor practice under Section 8(b)(1) of the National Labor Relations Act.

Coercion of employees (Section 8(b)(1)(A)) | NLRB

IN MY PERSONAL OPINON...There it is....YOU said coercion....the MEMBERS of those supplements voted it down.....the IBT implemented Article 12 of the IBT CONSTITUTION because THE MEMBERS gave them that authority by ELECTING DELEGATES who represented them at IBT COVENTIONS and voted to have these Articles in the IBT Constitution and RECONFIRMED at every IBT CONVENTION thereafter.

NOW, here is the most important part....THE NLR Act has NOTHING to do with thise....yes, they can file a DFR charge at the NLRB, but it will be denied because of the democratic process that is set up to afirm the IBT Constitution....SO, if you want change in the IBT Constitution, then you need start by running as a Delegate at your Local and fight to make changes.

Civil Rights has NOTHING to do with the process used on voting on the supplements.


"Where does it say in IBT Constitution that union representatives can coerce their own members into voting a certain way?"

The IBT is charges with negogiating and informing the members of their contract, and to either recomend it or disaprove of it, and the members voted on it....where is the member being corrce?



"Do the members get to vote on the IBT Constitution? NO, why not? Therefore, that IBT Constitution doesn't mean $***."

Once again, read the post...the MEMBERS vote on the IBT Constitution by way of their elected delegates....if they do not vote the way you liked, then DON'T vote for them for the next IBT Convention....SO, they DO VOTE by way of proxy....get it now?

Your hyper-link rantings are not producing the facts as to what I and the others on here see...you do not get it.

So, why don't you take your hyper-link rantings back to your Spaghetti's World on that wanna be website and leave us in peace....just saying.....KK
 
shoving it down the members throat ,just like what they did to yrc sheep !!! why even have these hokey-pokey fake votes anyway ??? union works just like a non-union company saying do this or else !!!

IN MY PERSONAL OPINON...There it is....YOU said coercion....the MEMBERS of those supplements voted it down.....the IBT implemented Article 12 of the IBT CONSTITUTION because THE MEMBERS gave them that authority by ELECTING DELEGATES who represented them at IBT COVENTIONS and voted to have these Articles in the IBT Constitution and RECONFIRMED at every IBT CONVENTION thereafter.

NOW, here is the most important part....THE NLR Act has NOTHING to do with thise....yes, they can file a DFR charge at the NLRB, but it will be denied because of the democratic process that is set up to afirm the IBT Constitution....SO, if you want change in the IBT Constitution, then you need start by running as a Delegate at your Local and fight to make changes.

Civil Rights has NOTHING to do with the process used on voting on the supplements.


"Where does it say in IBT Constitution that union representatives can coerce their own members into voting a certain way?"

The IBT is charges with negogiating and informing the members of their contract, and to either recomend it or disaprove of it, and the members voted on it....where is the member being corrce?



"Do the members get to vote on the IBT Constitution? NO, why not? Therefore, that IBT Constitution doesn't mean $***."

Once again, read the post...the MEMBERS vote on the IBT Constitution by way of their elected delegates....if they do not vote the way you liked, then DON'T vote for them for the next IBT Convention....SO, they DO VOTE by way of proxy....get it now?

Your hyper-link rantings are not producing the facts as to what I and the others on here see...you do not get it.

So, why don't you take your hyper-link rantings back to your Spaghetti's World on that wanna be website and leave us in peace....just saying.....KK
I was replying to wongway's post and concern, not UPS's ordeal. What don't you understand? What's with the bashing of other union members from another website have anything to do with this?

IMO, for someone who preaches the IBT Constitution, one should know that someone has to wait a full year, not three months to replace a union steward selection. Does that sound familiar, KK? Doh!
 
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I was replying to wongway's post and concern, not UPS's ordeal. What don't you understand? For someone who preaches the IBT Constitution, one should know that someone has to wait a full year, not three months to replace a union steward selection. Does that sound familiar, KK? Doh!

A steward selection???? Now wtf are you talking about. You make absolutely no sense, talk in circles, and link to irrelevant information. What a nutcase!
 
A steward selection???? Now wtf are you talking about. You make absolutely no sense, talk in circles, and link to irrelevant information. What a nutcase!
Is someone trying to coerce me into saying something negative on a website, so a moderator could charge me with a personal attack?

Is someone familiar with the laws surrounding cyber harassment these days?
 
Is someone trying coerce me into saying something negative on a website, so a moderator could charge me with a personal attack?

Is someone familiar with the laws surrounding cyber harassment these days?

Youre not a lawyer. You just pretend to be one on the internet
 
Pointing out one's ignorance on a subject they continue to post about is not harassment. Sorry. Now post another irrelevant link
Your statement is irrelevant, because it is based on opinion not fact.

So are you promoting the War On Workers?

Because, if someone thinks it is ignorance and tries to coerce or demonize a member for informing others of their rights, only tells me that someone has a control problem.

Yeah, that would suck if people were informed of their rights, because it would harder for a business to control people.

People would come together and sign petitions and have dirt-bag traitors removed from office, which is legal with 501c 5 and 6 non profit businesses.

Then someone would not have YRC as their ATM. :LMAO:
 
Your statement is irrelevant, because it is based on opinion not fact.

So are you promoting the War On Workers?

Because, if someone thinks it is ignorance and tries to coerce or demonize a member for informing others of their rights, only tells me that someone has a control problem.

Yeah, that would suck if people were informed of their rights, because it would harder for a business to control people.

People would come together and sign petitions and have dirt-bag traitors removed from office, which is legal with 501c 5 and 6 non profit businesses.

Then someone would not have YRC as their ATM. :LMAO:

But what you post is not fact. Your links do not pertain to the topic or the very point you are trying to make. You dont even understand what you post. You just blab about nothing. You dont even understand my handle. Youre nuts.
 
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