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Teamsters Organize to Defend Pensions | Teamsters for a Democratic Union
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Sorry I can't get behind anything TDU does.
Your right, TDU gave you a good contract for the next five years with the help of nonunion labor. Oh wait, that wasn't TDU, what was I thinking?
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TDU usually lays in the weeds and when something comes up that they can leach, I mean latch onto, they pounce. They don't normally have anything up front to bring to the table. All they do is sit back and wait for something negative to complain about. They would be more influential if they had some good ideas during negotiations or while an issue is out there, rather than hiding and trolling. Unfortunately for TDU, they have already turned off so many, they will not get the attention of the members unless they do some serious mending. They must change. Not saying the Hoffa group is great, by any stretch of the imagination, but if you think anything TDU has put out there to be our next General President is better, I wholeheartedly disagree and for that matter, the membership disagrees as well.
I think you've hit on the central issue. For most Teamsters, TDU does not reflect what we want. It comes down to the lesser of two evils.
Being worried about it and having a plan are two different things. I'm worried about an asteroid hitting the earth but I dont have a real plan to stop it
OK you dodged the asteroid, now what's your thoughts on the pension question?
better than that question , whats hoffas plan to save our pension oh i know ,screw them all ive got mine. his pension will be more than most teamster will make for working for several years .
but im sute there are still some that will say he deserves ever penny .
far a im consurned he should be tar and feathered and his little pal tyson too
but im sute there are still some that will say he deserves ever penny .
far a im consurned he should be tar and feathered and his little pal tyson too
Just give Bruce Willis a call!::LMAO:
Maybe he didn't dodge that asteroid?:LMAO:
I have the same answer to the pension question that TDU does. I dont know. Hoffa needs to go, but whatever clown TDU pulls out of the closet and dusts off to run again would be just as bad and would have no solution to anything. TDU is just a loud mouth, commie, fringe of the IBT
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Some of the above posts concern me because they seem all over the place. The "pension" issues in America are not Hoffas fault. I do not even know of a trust he sits on, anywhere. So with that being said he does not control the rules and how trusts are administered. Many of these trusts have been making stupid investment decisions for decades. As far as I know he had nothing to do with central states going to a 25 and out plan without a way to fund it. But, he has had a hand in the YRC BS of being allowed to pull out of my pension fund (the west) with no penalty paid, as of now. I've heard YRC owes the west almost $200 million. The trust will take care of that penalty now (hopefully)since Hoffa did not. That is not a way for us to get back in, only a penalty for YRC leaving.
I would like to hear anybody's plan on how to wring blood out of this turnip called YRC and get us (the west) back into the pension along with getting everybody else what they are owed.
I would like to hear anybody's plan on how to wring blood out of this turnip called YRC and get us (the west) back into the pension along with getting everybody else what they are owed.
Wow, now I know why you have such a crappy attitude all the time. You're going through life worried about asteroids hitting the earth. Mystery solved!
PS - Isn't it foolish to worry about things you have no control over?
Wow, now I know why you have such a crappy attitude all the time. You're going through life worried about asteroids hitting the earth. Mystery solved!
PS - Isn't it foolish to worry about things you have no control over?
I hear the asteroid is set to hit Overland park
So,if I'm understanding you correctly TDU, Hoffa, and yourself have no solutions to the pension question? That's pretty sad, all Teamsters should have concerns, questions and possible solutions on the state of our pension plans. If that's the case you shouldn't bellyache if your pension gets reduced in the next few months or worst yet disappears in the years to come when you are expecting to collect it. If the rank and file don't let these bums in Washington know how we feel they will do whatever they please with our pensions and futures. I have 39 years invested in this union and I'm gonna fight for my hard earned pension and not cry Y(ellow) R(uins) C(ompanies) and Pensions. Contact those bums who represent you in Washington and tell them to keep their hands off of pensions or we will remember their names come Election Day!!
I never said I didnt have any concerns. So what is your solution? And contacting the bums in Washington isnt a solution. The funds are collapsing under their own weight and the trustees will do what they need to do to keep the funds solvent.
Hoffa may not sit on any Teamster pension boards but by letting UPS leave the funds severely damaged them, by lettingYRC stop paying for 18 months or more hurt the funds and letting them contribute only 25% of the I think 2008 rate hurt the funds. He also hasn't helped the funds by not organizing a single trucking company in I don't know how many years. Last but not least he backed the proposal to cut the pensions of retirees who depend on their pensions to survive, and then tells them they can't return to work to drive a truck. This proposal talked up in Congress is called " Solutions to screw the middle class Teamster."
Contacting the bums in Washington is a solution, because they want to keep their seats in Congress so they can keep their fingers in the cookie jar. Sure up the Pension Guaranty Fund by charging employers more than $12 an employee a year would be a start. They claim Teamster Multiemployer Pension Funds will bankrupt the Fund so sure them up. Congress bailed out the banks and GM why doesn't somebody (Hoffa) go to Congress and ask for money to sure up our funds until they are in a financially better place and then we can pay them back like the others? Organize some jobs and eliminate withdrawal liabilities so companies won't be afraid to join these funds. There are ways we can sure up these plans, but the easiest way for Congress, the companies and Hoffa is to cut them to the bone or just let them die. If we don't open our mouths they will die.
He didnt let UPS out of the funds. The members voted to exit Central States and UPS wrote a check for $6 billion. He didnt let YRC pay only 25%, the members voted for it. As far as cutting the pensions, when you have more drawing from the fund than you have paying in, the money doesnt last very long. You can only do a few things, increase contributions or decrease benefits or let the fund go belly up.