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I work the inbound,three weeks ago broke a trailer that had 9000Lbs not manifested,very next day 3200lbs of corrosive not manifested,trailer not placarded,told fos,fom,and dock trainer,was told by dock trainer it doesn't happen that often,I was pis.ed.I said if it happens once,thats one time to many,peoples lives are on the line and if that driver has an accident and hurts someone,I hope it's one of his loved ones since it's okay by him.When I get pushed off the dock,you better believe I will check all of my loads.Had a dock worker load 3 totes on one side of trailer just last week,said he placarded the load,when asked to fix it the fos asked where the un# were,he said what are they?All of you Road drivers be safe check those loads,those are your csa points,it's your life and the publics,I will try to do my part,happy trails!
 
A driver can't possibly check every load. The only way to do that is to load every load, and that isn't practical.
It seems to me that the problem is that this responsibly is being placed on the driver.
Sure in truck-load checking a load isn't to tough, usually, but in LTL, often, it isn't practical.
IMO this requirement is but another way in which companies are attempting to shift liability onto the driver.
Oh, it sounds good if you know nothing about the business so legislators can be easily convincd, especially if someone slides them a couple 100 K.
 
lonesum said:
I work the inbound,three weeks ago broke a trailer that had 9000Lbs not manifested,very next day 3200lbs of corrosive not manifested,trailer not placarded,told fos,fom,and dock trainer,was told by dock trainer it doesn't happen that often,I was pis.ed.I said if it happens once,thats one time to many,peoples lives are on the line and if that driver has an accident and hurts someone,I hope it's one of his loved ones since it's okay by him.When I get pushed off the dock,you better believe I will check all of my loads.Had a dock worker load 3 totes on one side of trailer just last week,said he placarded the load,when asked to fix it the fos asked where the un# were,he said what are they?All of you Road drivers be safe check those loads,those are your csa points,it's your life and the publics,I will try to do my part,happy trails!
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Wait so you mean around 7-9k on one side of a trailer isnt an appropriate way to load totes? Damn guess I did it wrong the entire time I worked there.

And what are UN numbers, I've never heard of such things?
 
Goslo,I know you can't check every load,after driveing and loading trucks since 79,your spidy sense's should go off when you hook your loads.I am sure you have felt the effects of a heavier kite than a lead.If you have noticed,this team of managers will appoint people to positions that they know will worry more rather their lips are chapped than what is the correct methods of doing a job.I guess what I am trying to say is that,I as a driver would feel alot more comfortable with loads loaded by fellow drivers(someone who knows weight distribution and seperation of haz-mat.The trainer at our barn (hand picked,job not posted,2years with Con-way)couldn't tell me what the high side of the trailer ment.Be SAFE!
 
lonesum said:
The trainer at our barn (hand picked,job not posted,2years with Con-way)couldn't tell me what the high side of the trailer ment.Be SAFE!
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Maybe it's called something different where I'm from or , I just don't know , but please share what the "high side of the trailer" is.
 
icuicp said:
Maybe it's called something different where I'm from or , I just don't know , but please share what the "high side of the trailer" is.
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Not to be offensive. But this is like loading remedial 083.

The high side is the driver side. As it sits higher on the crown of the road. If the trailer is going to be heavy one way or the other. You would much prefer it to be heavy to the high side. As being the same amount heavy to the low side will see the lean " magnified " by gravity. Not only does it look sketchy. But it has the potential to be hazardous.

Always freaks me out when I get in and can read those trailer numbers. Sometimes you get lucky and they are leaning opposite each other. And it really ain't that bad.
 
highspeeds said:
Not to be offensive. But this is like loading remedial 083.

The high side is the driver side. As it sits higher on the crown of the road. If the trailer is going to be heavy one way or the other. You would much prefer it to be heavy to the high side. As being the same amount heavy to the low side will see the lean " magnified " by gravity. Not only does it look sketchy. But it has the potential to be hazardous.

Always freaks me out when I get in and can read those trailer numbers. Sometimes you get lucky and they are leaning opposite each other. And it really ain't that bad.
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Correct. There are a lot of drivers/dock workers that don't know and won't ask OR think they know and pass on bad info.
 
Drivers the bottom line is with the no tolerance safety policies,and dock hands loading, we are screwed. Not only are these people leaving drivers wide open for hazmat violations, unmanifested freight and bad loading are going to cause alot of flipped trailers. This place is completely out of control. If you are planning on keeping a CDL long term, start looking around. We have all of these very serious issues with the safety and general operation of CW, and all these fools are worried about is where the staplers are!!!!!!!!! Not to mention half the crap you see on the dock is not billed. Glad to see that's workin out for em. I am done. My plan is to stay until I get fired, I'm sure all of our days are numbered at this point. When that happens cut my CDL into 100 pieces and find something else to do.The level of idiocy is staggering and frightening all at once. All we can do at this point is get in the way of this crap, and make it as hard on them as they do us drivers. I AM DONE!!!!!!
 
deputyd said:
Drivers the bottom line is with the no tolerance safety policies,and dock hands loading, we are screwed. Not only are these people leaving drivers wide open for hazmat violations, unmanifested freight and bad loading are going to cause alot of flipped trailers. This place is completely out of control. If you are planning on keeping a CDL long term, start looking around. We have all of these very serious issues with the safety and general operation of CW, and all these fools are worried about is where the staplers are!!!!!!!!! Not to mention half the crap you see on the dock is not billed. Glad to see that's workin out for em. I am done. My plan is to stay until I get fired, I'm sure all of our days are numbered at this point. When that happens cut my CDL into 100 pieces and find something else to do.The level of idiocy is staggering and frightening all at once. All we can do at this point is get in the way of this crap, and make it as hard on them as they do us drivers. I AM DONE!!!!!!
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see ya....
 
Goslo said:
One terminal is saying driver gets points so he'd better break seal and check load prior to departure.
Another terminal instructing driver NOT to break seal and inspect.
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If I want to see the inside of a trailer I'm hauling I won't and don't ask anyone or think twice about breaking the seal and just twisting it back on so inbound or whoever can still scan it if needed. I can't believe any drivers at conway are actually asking supervisors at any level crap like this. What have they got to do with it and who cares what they think. You've got lives on the line, yourself, your family, others on the road around you and having a peace of mind to think about. Don't stoop so low as to ask someone in the office or supervising a dock if you (a responsible class A driver) can look inside a trailer your responsible for hauling safely. It's really as simple as that.
 
HowlerMonkey said:
If I want to see the inside of a trailer I'm hauling I won't and don't ask anyone or think twice about breaking the seal and just twisting it back on so inbound or whoever can still scan it if needed. I can't believe any drivers at conway are actually asking supervisors at any level crap like this. What have they got to do with it and who cares what they think. You've got lives on the line, yourself, your family, others on the road around you and having a peace of mind to think about. Don't stoop so low as to ask someone in the office or supervising a dock if you (a responsible class A driver) can look inside a trailer your responsible for hauling safely. It's really as simple as that.
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Exactly. If any of the idiot managers ever tell you that you can't look inside a load, then refuse to haul it.

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