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POLITICS ‘trump Is Ruining Our Markets’: Struggling Farmers Are Losing A Huge Customer To The Trade War — Chi

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  1. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    ‘Trump is ruining our markets’: Struggling farmers are losing a huge customer to the trade war — China
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/10/tru...2M4HvsFMhmCUjQ-OJoO21f9MfspC37yAOvEBqOVoJCW-Y
    Key Points
    • U.S. farmers lost their fourth largest customer this week after China officially cancelled all purchases of U.S. agricultural products, a retaliatory move following President Donald Trump’s pledge to slap 10% tariffs on $300 billion of Chinese imports.
    • China’s exit piles on to a devastating year for farmers, who’ve struggled through record flooding and droughts that destroyed crop yields, and trade war escalations that have lowered prices and profits this year.
    • “It’s really, really getting bad out here,” Bob Kuylen, a farmer of 35 years in North Dakota, told CNBC.
    • “There’s no incentive to keep farming, except that I’ve invested everything I have in farming, and it’s hard to walk away.”
    They [the White House] should start thinking about another major bailout,” he added. “Either you let a bunch of farmers go broke or you do another payout.”

    Allen Williams, who’s farmed for nearly 50 years in Illinois, said the trade war benefits no one, and that the government subsidies are an unjust expense for taxpayers. Subsidies have covered 8% of his gross receipts this year.

    “I’m very grateful to get subsidies, but they won’t result in making a loss into a profit for most grain farms,” he said.

    “And I don’t think it’s right for the American taxpayer to subsidize this segment of the economy just because of what I see as a mistake of a trade war,” he added.

     
  2. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    I would think that you would support annual subsidies to farmers since you support annual subsidies to individuals who don't want to work.
    :idunno:
     
  3. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    When it’s convenient, otherwise you call them corporate agri-giants.
     
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  4. 20_yrs_2_go

    20_yrs_2_go So we got that going for us, Wich is nice

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    Ohio farmer clearly explains how tarrifs work with China
    [ Must watch entire video ]


     
  5. kantgetryte

    kantgetryte Well-Known Member

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    CNN... Forget it
     
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  6. Bubba74

    Bubba74 I live Here

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    https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/why-americas-tariff-hit-farmers-still-support-trump/

    This is another narrative the left is trying to push
    and these farmers know it wont get better until after the election
    if Trump wins China runs to the table
    if any of those Dems win, China owns us forever
     
  7. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    Likewise, I would have thought you would oppose subsidies to farmers.
     
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  8. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    The whole world is turning upside down and Trumps fueling it, not working to halt it.
    It could turn into anouther ww2 type situation 5 to 10 years out. There are a lot of Trumps being elected world wide.
    You can just imagine what kind of international cooperation thats going to produce.
    We need to get a real deal maker back in the White House soon.
    Or maybe move to places like Argentina or Chile way down in the Southern Hemisphere to live through it.
     
  9. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    President Trump has been talking tariffs his entire adult life, if these farmers do understand that what can we say?
    I’m sure Bernie has some co-op plan for everything.
     
  10. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Deal maker?
    What you mean is another bend over Obama type.
     
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  11. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    I oppose subsidies to ANYONE.

    So you are finally correct on something. Congrats.
     
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  12. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    Everything you say is always bass-ackwards.

    Trump has us on the rebound from the disaster situation Obama had us heading in. We no longer pay 100% of the world's bill for them. There is still work to be done but we are headed in the right direction.
    Paying money to and pandering to terrorist nations gained us nothing. And fair trade practices ate helping our nation and it's citizens. If you Dems weren't professional obstructionists things could improve even quicker.
     
  13. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    So how about a like?

    It will be my 1000th(again). It would be a real honor for you.
     
  14. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    Your top post was taking one of your subtle shots at me. So there will be no like given to you from me. Instead, your attempt earns you a kick to the vagina.
    :nut kick:

    :lmao:

    :barbershop quartet member:
     
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  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Trump told us the other day that North Korea's Kim sent him a beautiful 3 page letter.
    It's was beautiful he said a full 3 pages all the pages were full, just beautiful
    Thats the guy you defend everyday :hilarious:


     
  16. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    Trump plays you guys and your ignorant media like a fiddle. Trolling you clowns has become his favorite past time.
     
  17. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    He should try to sound intelligent anyway. We have the Big Dope for President, it's embarrassing.
     
  18. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash GOOD CHOICE AMERICA. AD-FREE USER

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    I'm not a big fan of Trump's words, but I am of his policies. It was just the opposite for the Muslim, his damn policies effected every day of my life.
    Ignore Trump's words and focus on his policies and you'll be loving on him by the weekend.
    The silk tongued politicians have been hosing us for decades so we are done with them.
     
  19. Bubba74

    Bubba74 I live Here

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    So call Un an asshat, insult him, etc...... and see how far we get
    havent you ever negotiated for anything ?
     
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  20. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Just who people would go to for financial advice, you and Paul Krugman.
     
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