I would venture to say that's all us line drivers really care about. I know the guys I run with do. Saia, Conway, Dats, FedEx. We all talk, and the last thing said is always "be safe."other than yourself
I would venture to say that's all us line drivers really care about. I know the guys I run with do. Saia, Conway, Dats, FedEx. We all talk, and the last thing said is always "be safe."other than yourself
Well if od cared about the drivers y don't they pay u OT or your insurance. They smile at u and when they walk away they laugh at uWell Ump you know at least one guy's goal, I'm with you. Get it done safely and well, go home, rinse and repeat.
Because it actually happens in non Union shops. Not saying everybody does it but more than you think. Then some guys like myself get screwed over and get crappy run/routes cause your fellow coworker sells you out to just better himself. I have a friend of mine that used to work at SEFL. He loved it over there as long as old terminal manager was there and making sure he had all the hours he wanted and talked down on me and other friends of ours who worked Union shops. Soon as old TM was forced retirement and new young guy came in made everything equal and those 60plus hr check where gone he skipped ship to ABF and loves it even though he still eliminates more runs for road drivers by packing trailers SEFL way. Honestly UMP is right we need to fix our own house 1st by not disclosing Union busines/issues to you guys and stick together and change from the top to bottom. Complaining about company fine but if our shop was 85% non corrupt we probably still would have done consessions but would hold companies tooth and nail to contract/work rules. That will take years for the fact of people like my friend is over here now and screwing over coworkers to just better himself.Thanks troubleman, I appreciate it. I like good debate, and I know I probably won't change anybody's mind. I just don't understand why the stereotypes that all us non-union drivers all are scared of the big bad boss man and we all get in line to get under the boss' desk still are not only accepted, but believed.
Well if od cared about the drivers y don't they pay u OT or your insurance. They smile at u and when they walk away they laugh at u![]()
Because it actually happens in non Union shops. Not saying everybody does it but more than you think. Then some guys like myself get screwed over and get crappy run/routes cause your fellow coworker sells you out to just better himself. I have a friend of mine that used to work at SEFL. He loved it over there as long as old terminal manager was there and making sure he had all the hours he wanted and talked down on me and other friends of ours who worked Union shops. Soon as old TM was forced retirement and new young guy came in made everything equal and those 60plus hr check where gone he skipped ship to ABF and loves it even though he still eliminates more runs for road drivers by packing trailers SEFL way. Honestly UMP is right we need to fix our own house 1st by not disclosing Union busines/issues to you guys and stick together and change from the top to bottom. Complaining about company fine but if our shop was 85% non corrupt we probably still would have done consessions but would hold companies tooth and nail to contract/work rules. That will take years for the fact of people like my friend is over here now and screwing over coworkers to just better himself.
You can really say that about anyplace of employment, union or non. I was a loader for UPS back in my collage days. Great job for going to school. The same ass kissing went on in their it just happens in the union instead of the company. Guys that should have been fired where protected and those of us not in favor where hung out to dry to prove a point.Because it actually happens in non Union shops. Not saying everybody does it but more than you think. Then some guys like myself get screwed over and get crappy run/routes cause your fellow coworker sells you out to just better himself. I have a friend of mine that used to work at SEFL. He loved it over there as long as old terminal manager was there and making sure he had all the hours he wanted and talked down on me and other friends of ours who worked Union shops. Soon as old TM was forced retirement and new young guy came in made everything equal and those 60plus hr check where gone he skipped ship to ABF and loves it even though he still eliminates more runs for road drivers by packing trailers SEFL way. Honestly UMP is right we need to fix our own house 1st by not disclosing Union busines/issues to you guys and stick together and change from the top to bottom. Complaining about company fine but if our shop was 85% non corrupt we probably still would have done consessions but would hold companies tooth and nail to contract/work rules. That will take years for the fact of people like my friend is over here now and screwing over coworkers to just better himself.
Dude chill out read my last post again. I said it goes on over here as well. Not once have I ever said anything to get you guys to crossover. I just thru my jab in a song when he came at the compensation package. OD as a whole is a good company hope it stays that way. When a reply of pension is all you got that further tells me of the knowledge you actually obtain.You can really say that about anyplace of employment, union or non. I was a loader for UPS back in my collage days. Great job for going to school. The same ass kissing went on in their it just happens in the union instead of the company. Guys that should have been fired where protected and those of us not in favor where hung out to dry to prove a point.
I've never once seen a post from a non union guy on your boards asking you to strike or de-certify. So why the interest in us. Because it benefits you. You don't give a rat's ass about us you just need to make sure your pension is funded.
Who's arguing not me and bitter as well.How much money we getting? Stop arguing with worn out bitter teamsters. So 2012
Who's arguing not me and bitter as well.
When you reply with an emoji flipping the bird that tells me more about you.Dude chill out read my last post again. I said it goes on over here as well. Not once have I ever said anything to get you guys to crossover. I just thru my jab in a song when he came at the compensation package. OD as a whole is a good company hope it stays that way. When a reply of pension is all you got that further tells me of the knowledge you actually obtain.
LolWhen your reply in an emoji flipping the bird that tells me more about you.
Be good 84!! We may go about it different ways but I believe our end goal is the same.
Agreed the standards we have now in trucking was fought for by the teamsters. OD pays what Union freight drivers where making in early 2000s. We set the pay scale. Now times have changed due too multiple aquisitions of freight companies and recession. If you UPS freight and other non Union carriers keep getting raises it helps us at the bargaining table and I hope you guys keep getting them. Trucking as a whole is on a downward spiral in my opinion and when it hits rock bottom more drivers will take a stand for change. History repeats itself, so Union and non Union guys need to stick together for a better way of life for the families we have at home!!!Be good 84!! We may go about it different ways but I believe our end goal is the same.
Amen!!!Agreed the standards we have now in trucking was fought for by the teamsters. OD pays what Union freight drivers where making in early 2000s. We set the pay scale. Now times have changed due too multiple aquisitions of freight companies and recession. If you UPS freight and other non Union carriers keep getting raises it helps us at the bargaining table and I hope you guys keep getting them. Trucking as a whole is on a downward spiral in my opinion and when it hits rock bottom more drivers will take a stand for change. History repeats itself, so Union and non Union guys need to stick together for a better way of life for the families we have at home!!!
I make 24.25 great insurance and pension and don't kiss my bosses Ass and don't pay for insurance smart assAgain any idea what kind of raise we're getting? All you Union guys who aren't making as much money running line as I do working city gtfo out of our forum. No one cares what your almost doors closed junk truck company is doing.
I make 24.25 great insurance and pension and don't kiss my bosses Ass and don't pay for insurance smart ass
I make 24.25 great insurance and pension and don't kiss my bosses Ass and don't pay for insurance smart ass