ABF | ABF First Quarter 2024 Results

Not really a good quarter. Competitors are operating in the 70's... ABF was at 92.. adjusted OR of 95.5
Tonnage decline 6%
Weight per shipment down 11%
Good news Yield is up 24% that is huge
Lost $$$ on a tech venture
Less reliance on Dynamic Pricing, means less shipment count but better paying freight
Arcbest has a great deal of work to do... Some good things but quite a few items heading in the wrong direction..
Sign of trouble??? Or Bidenomics???
 
Not really a good quarter. Competitors are operating in the 70's... ABF was at 92.. adjusted OR of 95.5
Tonnage decline 6%
Weight per shipment down 11%
Good news Yield is up 24% that is huge
Lost $$$ on a tech venture
Less reliance on Dynamic Pricing, means less shipment count but better paying freight
Arcbest has a great deal of work to do... Some good things but quite a few items heading in the wrong direction..
Sign of trouble??? Or Bidenomics???
Competitors???? Besides OD, who else was in the 70s?
 
If stock was a representation of just ABF Freight then looks like it wouldn’t have tanked, funny how the non union/asset light division of Arcbest keeps losing money while ABF/Teamsters is what’s making them all this money that they use to play with and invest and lose…. Lol
 
If stock was a representation of just ABF Freight then looks like it wouldn’t have tanked, funny how the non union/asset light division of Arcbest keeps losing money while ABF/Teamsters is what’s making them all this money that they use to play with and invest and lose…. Lol
Great point, the ABF Freight sector seems to be the profit driver for Arcbest
My point is the ABF Freight OR is moving in the wrong direction.
While the economy/Bidenomics is not helping, ABF Freight did experience a once in a lifetime experience with their largest competitor going out of business 2 or 3 quarters ago.
There is good news here, the CWT is improving, big time. Meaning they are hauling more profitable freight, perhaps not as much as they would like but someone figured out what is paying well and has it on the truckline. Did ABF comb through the Yellow business that was available and was disciplined enough to select only quality revenue?
Maybe, next quarter will tell us a great deal..
 
Great point, the ABF Freight sector seems to be the profit driver for Arcbest
My point is the ABF Freight OR is moving in the wrong direction.
While the economy/Bidenomics is not helping, ABF Freight did experience a once in a lifetime experience with their largest competitor going out of business 2 or 3 quarters ago.
There is good news here, the CWT is improving, big time. Meaning they are hauling more profitable freight, perhaps not as much as they would like but someone figured out what is paying well and has it on the truckline. Did ABF comb through the Yellow business that was available and was disciplined enough to select only quality revenue?
Maybe, next quarter will tell us a great deal..
ABF’s OR improved 3/10th’s of a point when compared to 2023’s OR (1st quarter). So…….how did you determine they are going the wrong direction???
 
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That sounds like a cop out right there....if you had an answer you would have been front and center with it....
exactly, for example 2021 and 2022 those private carriers such as Estes and R&L moved 2.5 times more shipments a day than ABF and R&Ls revenue was less than ABFs revenue and Estes was only 1 billion more in revenue with 2.5 times more shipments per day, yes I know we aren’t talking net income but you get what I’m saying, R&L moved an average of 49,000 shipments a day and had revenue of 2.4 billion and Estes moved an average of 49,198 shipments a day with a revenue of 3.7 billion now ABF only moved an average of 19,895 shipments a day but had a revenue of 2.5 billion,(meaning ABF is moving the best paying freight out there) i guarantee if ABF was a non union outfit there numbers would be right up there with Old dominion. But luckily for me they are union …..
 
ABF’s OR improved 3/10th’s of a point when compared to 2023’s OR (1st quarter). So…….how did you determine they are going the wrong direction???
The problem is not ABF, the problem is the 21 Million loss on Phantom Auto which ceased operations in the first quarter. Arcbest invested 25 million in that remote operated forklift startup in 2022. I wonder who in corporate is going to raise their hand & take credit for that investment? If not for ABF the corporation would be in trouble.
 
Many years ago the company was 'guinea pigged' & made a similar blunder on some new technology. One of the VP's, I think it was John Dale, said we want to be on the leading edge of technology, but not on the bleeding edge. The current management would be wise to look back on bad decisons made in the past & try to avoid similar mistakes.
 
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The problem is not ABF, the problem is the 21 Million loss on Phantom Auto which ceased operations in the first quarter. Arcbest invested 25 million in that remote operated forklift startup in 2022. I wonder who in corporate is going to raise their hand & take credit for that investment? If not for ABF the corporation would be in trouble.
Doc, I disagree with your last 2 posts. Failure is not always a bad thing. In business, a percentage of revenue should be invested in new ideas and new ventures. It only takes one investment to become the leader. Even if the previous 99 investments failed. And even when an investment fails, a corporation can take a tax loss and get the government to pay a percentage of the loss. The trick is to produce enough revenue, and keep the investments small enough, that failure doesn't harm the corporation. IMO.
 
Doc, I disagree with your last 2 posts. Failure is not always a bad thing. In business, a percentage of revenue should be invested in new ideas and new ventures. It only takes one investment to become the leader. Even if the previous 99 investments failed. And even when an investment fails, a corporation can take a tax loss and get the government to pay a percentage of the loss. The trick is to produce enough revenue, and keep the investments small enough, that failure doesn't harm the corporation. IMO.
A company must have growth to survive. Diversity can be good. The automated fork lifts may have seemed to be a fit for ABF but apparently it did not work. I remember several investments ABF made over the years that did not make a profit. Mr. Young always said that any business that is not profitable would be sold. I would have liked to see that 25 Million invested in new equipment or real estate.
 
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exactly, for example 2021 and 2022 those private carriers such as Estes and R&L moved 2.5 times more shipments a day than ABF and R&Ls revenue was less than ABFs revenue and Estes was only 1 billion more in revenue with 2.5 times more shipments per day, yes I know we aren’t talking net income but you get what I’m saying, R&L moved an average of 49,000 shipments a day and had revenue of 2.4 billion and Estes moved an average of 49,198 shipments a day with a revenue of 3.7 billion now ABF only moved an average of 19,895 shipments a day but had a revenue of 2.5 billion,(meaning ABF is moving the best paying freight out there) i guarantee if ABF was a non union outfit there numbers would be right up there with Old dominion. But luckily for me they are union …..
Too many factors such as length of haul, class of freight, FAK and we don't know the profit margins of the private carriers to make an exact comparison.
I have some confidential info that is very good. I cannot post it here.
I do agree if ABF were non union it would rival ODFL but they are not.
I live in realville...
 
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