Already getting torn up now .What's new..lolOh god no.
You will be waiting on the damn things to find a gear every time you want to go from stop.
And docking etc will tear em up. The Management cannot be that stupid.
In 5 years you want see a manual trans except for heavy hauling ext. Fuel mileage is king in fleets. Automatic trans are standard rolling off the factory line, no extra charge.Oh god no.
You will be waiting on the damn things to find a gear every time you want to go from stop.
And docking etc will tear em up. The Management cannot be that stupid.
Let me make a little correction on your post there Sidewinder, old Macks are not U, Ds, nor R models.The auto we had as a team, would be a 515 Detriot on a Meritor Rockwell paddle from about 2000 model year. Drives were 46000 rockwells.
We generally went through 300 gallons every 26 to 30 hours. Which would be around 7 miles to gallon. Generally. If we did not stop. Occasionally depending on wind and terrain conditions (Think eastern Colorado Line, Western Kansas I-70 eastbound) we would get into the 15's close to 20's and stay there for a few hours in summer storms provided the wind was blowing faster than 60 from our 7 o clock to our 1 o clock using the trailer as a sail loaded. Governed at 63.
And there was the problem. FFE governed the trucks at 63, had the computers show it at 65 and it never matched the stop watch mile marker or Laptop GPS which revealed 63 as max speed throwing off tight JIT to the minute delivery times.
I took it to the safety and shop boss. And what they do? Tell me its a great big company secret and keep my big mouth shut. It was worth a great deal of money to them then vs Insurance to govern at 63.
I will never ever again allow such a slow tractor trailer anywhere in the USA. I dont mind a little legal 75 or even 80 making time. Dont need to be much faster anyway. But 63 would be life threatening in those places.
I started off in old macks, U's D's and especially the R models. Little 50 something gallon tank under there. And with that were expected to do a full days work. Running out of fuel was common back then. The company could buy bigger tanks and saved themselves the constant panic calls into rescuing trucks all the time. But no, they intend to be stupid until it hurts.
Im sure they will b fun in the snowOh god no.
You will be waiting on the damn things to find a gear every time you want to go from stop.
And docking etc will tear em up. The Management cannot be that stupid.
Quit crying, the first hydramatics we had in 1955, you could be driving 35 or 40 mphIm sure they will b fun in the snow
You haven’t driven one with a 12 speed Endurant, coupled with a Cummins. Easiest truck I’ve ever driven, even in reverse- drives like a car. The 10speed auto shifts were horrible, but the 12s are great! 7.8 mpg over my last 352,000 miles on a 2020 LT. Snow, ice, hills, flatland. You can switch it to manual and lock it in (except the beeper from locking it drives me crazy!)Oh god no.
You will be waiting on the damn things to find a gear every time you want to go from stop.
And docking etc will tear em up. The Management cannot be that stupid.
They are fun in the snow. Been there done that with ours on ice too.Im sure they will b fun in the snow
Thats similar to what we had. It was a rockwell meritor 2000 version. Had a manual paddle to stay in any gear you please including reverse.You haven’t driven one with a 12 speed Endurant, coupled with a Cummins. Easiest truck I’ve ever driven, even in reverse- drives like a car. The 10speed auto shifts were horrible, but the 12s are great! 7.8 mpg over my last 352,000 miles on a 2020 LT. Snow, ice, hills, flatland. You can switch it to manual and lock it in (except the beeper from locking it drives me crazy!)
I thought I’d hate it, but I don’t.
See jimmy, you can thank me for working the bugs outta them things back in 55.You haven’t driven one with a 12 speed Endurant, coupled with a Cummins. Easiest truck I’ve ever driven, even in reverse- drives like a car. The 10speed auto shifts were horrible, but the 12s are great! 7.8 mpg over my last 352,000 miles on a 2020 LT. Snow, ice, hills, flatland. You can switch it to manual and lock it in (except the beeper from locking it drives me crazy!)
I thought I’d hate it, but I don’t.
In all fairness, I know guys getting 8-9 mpg driving manual 10 speeds. A lot has to do with keeping your RPM’s in the right range.You haven’t driven one with a 12 speed Endurant, coupled with a Cummins. Easiest truck I’ve ever driven, even in reverse- drives like a car. The 10speed auto shifts were horrible, but the 12s are great! 7.8 mpg over my last 352,000 miles on a 2020 LT. Snow, ice, hills, flatland. You can switch it to manual and lock it in (except the beeper from locking it drives me crazy!)
I thought I’d hate it, but I don’t.
In my days you couldn't get 8 mpg coasting down a mountain.In all fairness, I know guys getting 8-9 mpg driving manual 10 speeds. A lot has to do with keeping your RPM’s in the right range.