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peter guzinnia

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New York supplement , Article 72 , Excessive overtime . Here at terminal 381 we have filed over a dozen grievances for excessive OT . There is no resolution according to the BA . Instead of finding a resolution the BA plans to re-write article 72 in the next contract , where as there will no longer be language saying anything about the excessive OT . I was also told by my BA that ABF can work us as many hours as DOT allows and there is nothing that the union will do about it . Also the BA will not take the grievance to panel because , "it is a lose , lose situation" , BA also stated the language in article 72 is antiquated and those words mean nothing . I thought the BA was suppose to fight for us , not against us . If this article is re-written then the company will just keep forcing OT on city/dock workers with no recourse .
 
peter guzinnia said:
New York supplement , Article 72 , Excessive overtime . Here at terminal 381 we have filed over a dozen grievances for excessive OT . There is no resolution according to the BA . Instead of finding a resolution the BA plans to re-write article 72 in the next contract , where as there will no longer be language saying anything about the excessive OT . I was also told by my BA that ABF can work us as many hours as DOT allows and there is nothing that the union will do about it . Also the BA will not take the grievance to panel because , "it is a lose , lose situation" , BA also stated the language in article 72 is antiquated and those words mean nothing . I thought the BA was suppose to fight for us , not against us . If this article is re-written then the company will just keep forcing OT on city/dock workers with no recourse .
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Maybe a whole bunch of guys need to surround the BA out in the yard and explain things to him, nicely of course.
 
peter guzinnia said:
New York supplement , Article 72 , Excessive overtime . Here at terminal 381 we have filed over a dozen grievances for excessive OT . There is no resolution according to the BA . Instead of finding a resolution the BA plans to re-write article 72 in the next contract , where as there will no longer be language saying anything about the excessive OT . I was also told by my BA that ABF can work us as many hours as DOT allows and there is nothing that the union will do about it . Also the BA will not take the grievance to panel because , "it is a lose , lose situation" , BA also stated the language in article 72 is antiquated and those words mean nothing . I thought the BA was suppose to fight for us , not against us . If this article is re-written then the company will just keep forcing OT on city/dock workers with no recourse .
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What is he writing on the grievances? No merit? If no satisfaction with B/A, then go to the President of the local, if no satisfaction, go to president of Joint council, I would make sure the B/. A. at least signs off on the grievance that he's aware of the issue and refused to fight it, keep a paper trail
 
peter guzinnia said:
New York supplement , Article 72 , Excessive overtime . Here at terminal 381 we have filed over a dozen grievances for excessive OT . There is no resolution according to the BA . Instead of finding a resolution the BA plans to re-write article 72 in the next contract , where as there will no longer be language saying anything about the excessive OT . I was also told by my BA that ABF can work us as many hours as DOT allows and there is nothing that the union will do about it . Also the BA will not take the grievance to panel because , "it is a lose , lose situation" , BA also stated the language in article 72 is antiquated and those words mean nothing . I thought the BA was suppose to fight for us , not against us . If this article is re-written then the company will just keep forcing OT on city/dock workers with no recourse .
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You want your BA to take the grievance to committee and get a resolution. Do you not understand that the "resolution" is that you will lose and then the OT question is forever resolved? When a committee decision is made, there is no longer any chance of negotiation to attempt a compromise.
 
Razorblade said:
You want your BA to take the grievance to committee and get a resolution. Do you not understand that the "resolution" is that you will lose and then the OT question is forever resolved? When a committee decision is made, there is no longer any chance of negotiation to attempt a compromise.
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Not necessarily true. Every decision made must strictly adhere to the contract. If not, legal options are available.
 
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peter guzinnia said:
New York supplement , Article 72 , Excessive overtime . Here at terminal 381 we have filed over a dozen grievances for excessive OT . There is no resolution according to the BA . Instead of finding a resolution the BA plans to re-write article 72 in the next contract , where as there will no longer be language saying anything about the excessive OT . I was also told by my BA that ABF can work us as many hours as DOT allows and there is nothing that the union will do about it . Also the BA will not take the grievance to panel because , "it is a lose , lose situation" , BA also stated the language in article 72 is antiquated and those words mean nothing . I thought the BA was suppose to fight for us , not against us . If this article is re-written then the company will just keep forcing OT on city/dock workers with no recourse .
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Easy solution. Vote the contract down.
 
chappey said:
What is he writing on the grievances? No merit? If no satisfaction with B/A, then go to the President of the local, if no satisfaction, go to president of Joint council, I would make sure the B/. A. at least signs off on the grievance that he's aware of the issue and refused to fight it, keep a paper trail
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always taught if you don't reject, it means you accept, show you fought it and keep a detailed paper trail
 
BIG R GUY said:
Doesn’t your contract contain language, that they can force you to stay 2 hours beyond 8, as long as they notify you by your 6th hour? 10 hours total.
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Nope, I'm going to submit a proposal like that, hopefully the BA will go along with it....by the way the BA is a woman..
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Razorblade said:
You want your BA to take the grievance to committee and get a resolution. Do you not understand that the "resolution" is that you will lose and then the OT question is forever resolved? When a committee decision is made, there is no longer any chance of negotiation to attempt a compromise.
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Do you know how the supplement is worded or you just talking out your butt like normal...
 
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