Cop shooting of the Day

Bart

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Yes....that is what I said..... You do understand that right?....
And just what "extra BS" did I spew?...

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If there hadn't been a video....he likely would still be on the street with no punishment....
 

pilot87

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Were you there?
No......Were you?

Why don't we skip the process in place and just take him out and shoot him.
The "process" that allows Police officers to avoid accountability in shooting cases where its shown to be without cause is flawed...... In the case that's the subject of my post, no one is saying he should be shot...... Get a grip on reality here....... Anyone else that shoots a person without just cause, like self defense, would be arrested....why do you think Police shouldn't be held to the same standards?

All officers involved in a shooting are taken off the street while the investigation in conducted

That isn't the point...... The point is he shot someone who clearly wasn't a threat at anytime prior to the shooting.... That isn't in question....
An investgation can still take place if he was arrested and held pending outcome.... That is part of the problem.... They get special treatment and to many times the "investigations" end up with no charges filed....no accountability....and the problem continues.....and gets more common...

This happens if there is a video or not
And how do you know this for a fact in every case?.... Without video from an eye witness, that gets made available to the public, we, the public wouldn't really now what goes on behind closed doors...

but don't let the truth get in your way‼️

I would deflect that back to you....
 

pilot87

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If there hadn't been a video....he likely would still be on the street with no punishment....
That was conjecture on my part....Since when it it against any rule to speculate and post opinion on an opinion based fourm?......
No one said you have to agree.....
 

Bart

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No......Were you?


The "process" that allows Police officers to avoid accountability in shooting cases where its shown to be without cause is flawed...... In the case that's the subject of my post, no one is saying he should be shot...... Get a grip on reality here....... Anyone else that shoots a person without just cause, like self defense, would be arrested....why do you think Police shouldn't be held to the same standards?



That isn't the point...... The point is he shot someone who clearly wasn't a threat at anytime prior to the shooting.... That isn't in question....
An investgation can still take place if he was arrested and held pending outcome.... That is part of the problem.... They get special treatment and to many times the "investigations" end up with no charges filed....no accountability....and the problem continues.....and gets more common...


And how do you know this for a fact in every case?.... Without video from an eye witness, that gets made available to the public, we, the public wouldn't really now what goes on behind closed doors...



I would deflect that back to you....
1. Never said I was but I will wait and see what comes of the incident.
2. If a shooting is justified is up to a judge and jury. There are lots of cases where someone is not arrested until an indictment it handed down.
3. I agree the video shows a no-shoot senario. If indicted the jail part will come in due time.
4. There are a lot of people including cops that went to jail before video was common.
5. Don't care
 

Bart

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That was conjecture on my part....Since when it it against any rule to speculate and post opinion on an opinion based fourm?......
No one said you have to agree.....
Reading a lot of something that wasn't there. You had your opinion and I had mine. Nothing more nothing less‼️
Rules :biglaugh:
 

pilot87

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1. Never said I was but I will wait and see what comes of the incident.
2. If a shooting is justified is up to a judge and jury. There are lots of cases where someone is not arrested until an indictment it handed down.
3. I agree the video shows a no-shoot senario. If indicted the jail part will come in due time.
4. There are a lot of people including cops that went to jail before video was common.
5. Don't care

We'll all have to wait to see what course this takes.....and then discuss the facts after it's already done and said....
 

pilot87

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Reading a lot of something that wasn't there. You had your opinion and I had mine. Nothing more nothing less‼️
Rules :biglaugh:

I didn't "read" anything that wasnt there..... I posted an opinion....nothing more, nothing less......

We have different opinions...... Not a big deal.....
 

Rastus

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The 911.call quoted someone had a gun. It looks like a accidental shooting. The white Hispanic officer didn't intend to shoot the guy. No intent no charges case closed.
 

Bart

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The 911.call quoted someone had a gun. It looks like a accidental shooting. The white Hispanic officer didn't intend to shoot the guy. No intent no charges case closed.
I can't remember where I heard that the other day if you have "no intent" you won't be charged with anything:1036316054:
 

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"Good watching" for you perhaps.....however I doubt that would be good for solving the real issue...
"Cop hating anarchists"...? People that speak out agaisnt Police violence and brutality are not "cop haters"..... No one "hates" all police.....just those that perpetrates the killing and other brutalties that occur......
Yep,that would be some good video for me to see a cop killer blown to bits...No one hates ALL police???Surely youre not that naive.The Dallas shooter was actually targeting police.He didnt take the time to ask them if they were a good or bad cop.(sarcasm).
Pigs in a blanket-fry like bacon???I guess they just meant the "bad" police..."No one hates all the police",now spin it how you meant to say it.
 

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The video has audio and plainly the man on his back is explaining the situation to the police.
Ya, no ::shit::. And not a single person on here has said that this cop was in the right. The system needs played out, and he will be on the unemployment line when it all shakes out. He made a huge mistake from what I see, but does protesting, looting, or burning down buildings fix his mistake? Hell no.
If you think that is a dangerous situation then how are you going to do your job?
You would rather just ignore the fact that people have recently dialed 911 then ambushed the police when they arrived. They have become a target from the second that they put their uniforms on, so they can no longer trust anyone.......period. They have families also.

How do you walk up to my car window and ask for my license, thats one of the most dangerous acts they do.
Easy answer.......with my gun pointed right at your head. If I were a police officer, either you would have your hands in clear view while I walked up, or my gun would already be drawn.
The police signed up to protect and serve the community, they didn't sign a death certificate. And for those who don't respect them and follow their commands, they also become a risk to not only the officer, but to the public in general.
 

Northern Flash

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The problem here is this is happening all the time here in America and I posted video's and you still insisted the police were right.
When a man is killed by two cops holding him to the ground with two point blank shots into his chest, you see it and it doesn't bother you.
Then what else can I think.
You need to raise the dosage on your meds because you are reading ::shit:: that was never written. I personally condemned that shooting multiple times, and I've also admitted it when I felt that an officer made a mistake.
You jump to conclusions on these shootings before the facts even come out, where I refuse to.
And if you think that I condone any police brutality or unjustified shootings, you are just simply wrong because my posts prove otherwise.
 

Northern Flash

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Were you there? Why don't we skip the process in place and just take him out and shoot him. All officers involved in a shooting are taken off the street while the investigation in conducted. This happens if there is a video or not but don't let the truth get in your way‼️
The anti-Americans want the anarchy and the police stand in their way.
They want the police hung in the streets 20 minutes after a shooting, without due process. But the law breaker supposedly deserves their day in court.

These people are really :censored: up in the head.
 

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I can't remember where I heard that the other day if you have "no intent" you won't be charged with anything:1036316054:
That police officer should use the newly written "Hillary Rule".

"Yes your honor, I did pull the trigger, but hurting the guy was not my intent".
Case closed.
 

Northern Flash

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Pigs in a blanket-fry like bacon???I guess they just meant the "bad" police..."No one hates all the police",now spin it how you meant to say it.
The Obama lovers support his comments when he says that it was just a rogue Muslim that killed dozens of people, and not all of them are bad people.
Yet, when it comes to the police, they are all lumped together when one goes rogue or makes a mistake.
They should just come out and admit that they hate police and authority. And the odds are that they hate them because they are often doing things that they shouldn't be.
It's no secret as to why those in the hood don't like the police.
 

Northern Flash

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Does anyone else notice how when a police officer makes a bad decision, gets put on administrative leave for months, the judicial system plays out, and he gets convicted AND GETS JAIL TIME, the story barely sees the light of day? One day of minimal coverage at best.
Since it doesn't fit the "police brutality without consequences" agenda, their punishment pretty much goes unnoticed.
More MSM bias and left wing agenda support from the media. Pathetic.
 

pilot87

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I can't remember where I heard that the other day if you have "no intent" you won't be charged with anything:1036316054:
It's not that simple......A person can be charged with Murder even though there wasn't "intent" to commit murder....for example... If a person inflicts bodily harm to another that person can be charged with murder if the result is the death of another person, even though that person didn't intend to kill the other person....another example, a murder that occurs in the commission of a felony, such as armed robbery, the robber can also be charged with murder, whether or not he, or she, intended any harm......or if a firefighter dies of smoke inhalation fighting a fire set by an arsonist....the arsonist can be charged with murder even though there wasn't intent to kill a firefighter.....
The law isn't as simple as that....yes, having "intent" does factor into it strongly.....but lack of "intent" is not always an "excusing" factor either.....

How about assault and battery charges?.....consider this....In some states they limit an assault to an attempt to commit a battery by one who has a “present ability” to do so...... Say someone points an unloaded gun and threatens to shoot them...under the "present ability" clause they would not be charged with assault.... The most accepted defonition of an assault is an attempt to commit a battery by someone with apparent and present ability to do so....such as the officer that actually pointed his loaded weapon and actually fired a shot striking the victim.... Would you agree that officer could be guilty of assualt and battery charges.....even though he may claim it wasn't his "intent" to harm the victim?...
 
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