Blah blah blah... I'm with you P&D guys 100%... but if you aren't actually working to dock then you can't really comment. I'd hate like hell to roll into a customer and drag a skid of garbage to the back and ask them to sign for it. Is there anyway to save face or corporate face, when you've been dragging that pile of claims around on a skid all morning.. dreading like hell getting to that stop? No, there isn't. It seems to me what you all fail to realize or even try to conceptualize.. is what is being forced upon the dock men these days. We're being asked to move 2+ bills an hour more than we were a year ago this time. We're being pressured into "making it fit" "high and tight".. call it what you will.. and during the speeches about those things.. they always love to throw in the " if we aren't meeting these production goals, layoffs aren't out of the picture" We're being manipulated into moving freight that we simply don't have and moving it faster, and with the same poor materials that we've always had. Being dockworkers, we don't have the luxury of having a CDL and a clean driving record to fall back on... we're judged of performance 1st, and quality 2nd. It's a sad fact. Nothing else. Our employer knows that dock jobs are few and far between..and growing slimmer by the day... So ask yourselves... if management presented to you a Bill Per Hour delivery quota... What would you do? Would you think of feeding, clothing, and housing your family in this economy? Or would you you drag your *** down the road, milking the clock? Remember, Estes does NOT lay off.. they reduce.. so when or IF they decide to bring someone back.. you come back at the bottom AKA New Hire. I'm pretty sure that as truck drivers on P&D.. you have the ability to inspect the load you intend to deliver that day. So crawl your lazy *** up in there and have a look.. and don't blame everything on the dockworkers. If you don't like it.. have them fix it.. tell a supervisor...if they don't do anything to your liking..get on a forklift and fix it yourself.... Remember High on the right.. Heavy on the Left.. And while you're at it.. thank a dock man for braving the cold to do the job you probably aren't either aren't willing to do.. or quite frankly, aren't capable of doing. Have a nice day.