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Dissolve and disperse central states pension fund now !

Do you want what's yours from Central States ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 85.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 14.8%

  • Total voters
    61
I'm starting a pool
Will the pension get new life in November?
Will the politicians say yes? Or say no?
Will it get tabled again?
My bet is it will tabled again, put it off until 2025 then they will say, "We tried but simply didn't have enough time to get it done".
Realist: seeing things for what they are, not what I want them to be.
 

jimmy g

Kook
Premium
I'm starting a pool
Will the pension get new life in November?
Will the politicians say yes? Or say no?
Will it get tabled again?
My bet is it will tabled again, put it off until 2025 then they will say, "We tried but simply didn't have enough time to get it done".
Realist: seeing things for what they are, not what I want them to be.
Theres nothing to say yes or no to. There's one bill, sitting in Committee for 11 months with no interest in voting it out of Committee.
 

papajohn

Well-Known Member
I'm starting a pool
Will the pension get new life in November?
Will the politicians say yes? Or say no?
Will it get tabled again?
My bet is it will tabled again, put it off until 2025 then they will say, "We tried but simply didn't have enough time to get it done".
Realist: seeing things for what they are, not what I want them to be.


One thing you want to think about, if the Central States Pension Fund runs out of money and out of business, so does every Employer in the Central States Pension Fund due to the pension liability. Careful what you wish for!
 
One thing you want to think about, if the Central States Pension Fund runs out of money and out of business, so does every Employer in the Central States Pension Fund due to the pension liability. Careful what you wish for!
So nice to see you again PAPA, In hind sight, UPS got off cheap, paying $135,000 per employee to leave CSPF. P.J. you haven't been reading between the lines on what is being said at the hearings. The withdraw liability will be eliminated! Multi employer pension funds that are not deemed viable, using single employer pension fund actuarial standards. Will no longer be aloud to accrue future liabilities. Contributions will be put in 401k accounts. Orphans will be taken over by PBGC, PBGC will get the bailout!

Papa John, your bass boat still for sale? Harley? Camper? Vette? Tools? I got cash!!!!!!
 

slipperysleuth

Tornadicthermalcyclogenesis, sorta..
I'm starting a pool
Will the pension get new life in November?
Will the politicians say yes? Or say no?
Will it get tabled again?
My bet is it will tabled again, put it off until 2025 then they will say, "We tried but simply didn't have enough time to get it done".
Realist: seeing things for what they are, not what I want them to be.

So nice to see you again PAPA, In hind sight, UPS got off cheap, paying $135,000 per employee to leave CSPF. P.J. you haven't been reading between the lines on what is being said at the hearings. The withdraw liability will be eliminated! Multi employer pension funds that are not deemed viable, using single employer pension fund actuarial standards. Will no longer be aloud to accrue future liabilities. Contributions will be put in 401k accounts. Orphans will be taken over by PBGC, PBGC will get the bailout!

Papa John, your bass boat still for sale? Harley? Camper? Vette? Tools? I got cash!!!!!!
Is that good? Or bad? This whole thing has me CONfused...right now with 30.7 yrs at age 60 I may recieve $1500 And an emphasis on MAY..
 
Is that good? Or bad? This whole thing has me CONfused...right now with 30.7 yrs at age 60 I may recieve $1500 And an emphasis on MAY..
So nice to see you again PAPA, In hind sight, UPS got off cheap, paying $135,000 per employee to leave CSPF. P.J. you haven't been reading between the lines on what is being said at the hearings. The withdraw liability will be eliminated! Multi employer pension funds that are not deemed viable, using single employer pension fund actuarial standards. Will no longer be aloud to accrue future liabilities. Contributions will be put in 401k accounts. Orphans will be taken over by PBGC, PBGC will get the bailout!

Papa John, your bass boat still for sale? Harley? Camper? Vette? Tools? I got cash!!!!!!
 
call the magician , kevin mccaffrey president of teamsters local 707 with a safe pension as a republican suffolk county legislator.he moved up the 707 ele tion becsuse he purports to be in washington working on a pension solution. his contract submitted to nassau otb members was recently voted down
vote for nassau otb cashier jackson leeds, independent candidate for 707 trustee.
 
my favorite martian kevin mccaffrey mailed out local 707 rank & file literature that says"Has the experience & knowledge to fix the nationwide pension problem." )kevin McCaffrey, Re-Elect as President).

vote for independent trustee candidate, jackson leeds, nassau otb cashier.
he does not know who will win the breeders cup at church hill downs 2018.
 
kevin mcaffrey serves on national negogiating committee for yrc, abf and ups freight according to his campsign literature. have you ever heard of him or from him?
 

slipperysleuth

Tornadicthermalcyclogenesis, sorta..
call the magician , kevin mccaffrey president of teamsters local 707 with a safe pension as a republican suffolk county legislator.he moved up the 707 ele tion becsuse he purports to be in washington working on a pension solution. his contract submitted to nassau otb members was recently voted down
vote for nassau otb cashier jackson leeds, independent candidate for 707 trustee.
Oh ok now i see... figures
 

slipperysleuth

Tornadicthermalcyclogenesis, sorta..
kevin mcaffrey serves on national negogiating committee for yrc, abf and ups freight according to his campsign literature. have you ever heard of him or from him?
ALL dog n pony show while they laugh all the way to the bank.. bow wow wuff wuff as we the rank n file swallow hook line n sinker... ooops, did i say swallow? Sorry trying to keep it family friendly..
 

Rodbolt

Member
WHY SHOULD WE USE OUR PENSION DOLLARS TO KEEP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTIALLY AT FAULT FOR ITS FAILURE IN JOBS UNTIL ALL THE MONEY IS GONE ? Divide the remaining funds now. Everyone would get their percentage for years worked. The Feds can let us roll it over into the teamster 401k tax free. Any future contributions will go there.
Any money in your hand is yours, what will happen next...........
CONTACT ALL YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND DEMAND THIS SCAM IS SHUT DOWN NOW !
I agree , this Ponzi scheme has collapsed . And the current employees are the loosers ! The retirees lives are not worth more than ours . We work just as hard as they did , why should we be penalized for the time period of our working lives ?
I say divide up what’s left ! AND DONT PAY ME WITH A PROMISE ANY MORE!
 

Jaloc

Well-Known Member
Bernie Sanders idea of a new National Pension System only solution merge every pension plan with social security get rid of cap on social security taxes make rich pay fair share! They can bailout banks and give over 700 Billion a year to the military but can't let people retire with dignity.
 

jimmy g

Kook
Premium
Bernie Sanders idea of a new National Pension System only solution merge every pension plan with social security get rid of cap on social security taxes make rich pay fair share! They can bailout banks and give over 700 Billion a year to the military but can't let people retire with dignity.
Hopefully you realize funding the Military is one of the very few Responsibilities of the US Government commanded by our Constitution. Perhaps you want no protection?
 

Rodbolt

Member
Barak Obama bailed out the banks and the automakers but only gave lip service to the middle class hard working people

of this country. It started with Jimmy Carter , It’s all about the money ! They don’t care about us !
Don’t pay me with a promise !
 

Jaloc

Well-Known Member
Hopefully you realize funding the Military is one of the very few Responsibilities of the US Government commanded by our Constitution. Perhaps you want no protection?
I believe we should have a smaller elite force our military budget the United States spends more on national defense than China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, France, United Kingdom, and Japan combined. End wars like in Afghanistan 17yrs for what imagine if we spent Billions lavishly here in America this is what Bannon talks about? I go both ways like a conservative socialist we can get the best of sides the dignity and welfare of labor and the legitimate interests of the business class need not be adversarial concerns. To the contrary, when labor and management come to respect each other and work together, it benefits all. Unfortunately, in today's America, too many propagandized union members fail to appreciate what it really takes to keep a business up and running. Likewise, too many CEO's do indeed (pardon the commie-sounding slogan here) "place profits over people."
 
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