don't know, but i can tell you i rode to jersey with him out of baltimore awhile back to give a deposition and he really had no business being a safety man. he had the worst case of rode rage i've ever seen. he would tailgate, cut people off and give them the bird for not getting out of his way, and drove about 90 the whole way. i'm not exagerating but there were times when i was worried for my safety. drive like that by yourself not when you have someone with you that you should be setting an example for. after that trip i couldn't ever respect him has a safety man. he should have been fired just based on that trip alone.