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Hey Car Hauler go to teamsterslocal728.org the contract is on this Georgia locals site. It should be the second story on the Main page. It is differant from are meeting on Friday.
 
sorry guys you are wrong about the seniority..company senority rules both lists..road..local..

Article 5 ​
Section 1. Seniority
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](a). Upon completion of the probationary period,
the employee’s seniority for all purposes shall be the first day worked as a probationary employee.
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Seniority shall be broken only by discharge, voluntary quit, normal retirement, or more than a two (2) year layoff, or leave, except for employees on workers compensation leave who shall not suffer a break in seniority unless on leave for more than three (3) years. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](b). A list of employees arranged in the order of their seniority shall be posted on the Union bulletin board no less often than once every six (6) months. A copy of the seniority posting shall be sent to the Local Union. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](c). Any controversy over the seniority standing of any employee on the seniority list shall be subject to the grievance procedure. An employee shall have thirty (30) days to protest his placement on the seniority list once it is first posted. If there is no written protest within this thirty (30) day period, the employee shall not have a right to challenge his placement on the list thereafter. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](d). For full-time employees there shall be two seniority lists, "local cartage" and "over-the road." There shall also be a separate "casual local cartage" seniority list. Employees in the following classifications shall be included on the local cartage seniority list: all truck drivers, helpers, dock workers, jockeys, and such other employees as may be presently or hereafter represented by the Union, engaged in local pickup, delivery, and assembling of freight. The "over-the-road" seniority list shall include all over-the-road drivers whose primary job is to [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]transport freight between the Employer’s facilities. Nothing within this paragraph shall preclude the Company from requesting a road driver to make extra stops to pick up or deliver freight in connection with his regular run or performing other local cartage work as the Company may assign. It is not the intent of the Company that this provision be utilized to diminish cartage employees’ work. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](e). The Company shall offer extra city or dock work to road employees who are on layoff and who are qualified and immediately available for city or dock work prior to using casual employees, except where there is a mutually agreed procedure to the contrary. No road employee shall gain "local cartage" seniority under this provision, but he/she shall accrue Company seniority. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](f). The following shall apply to casual employees: [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](i) The date an employee is hired as a casual will be the casual seniority date. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](ii) A casual employee laid off due to lack of work for less than one year will retain his/her casual seniority. Company and job classification seniority shall be lost due to discharge, voluntary quit or retirement. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](iii) The date a casual employee obtains full-time employment shall be the employee’s regular seniority date. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](iv) A casual employee whose layoff exceeds one (1) year shall be considered to have been terminated and shall lose seniority, but may reapply for employment. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](v) A full-time employee’s seniority shall prevail over a casual employee’s seniority in case of layoff. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](vi) If a full-time position is available for bid, and is not bid upon by a qualified regular full-time employee, the casual employee with the most seniority who bids on the position will be awarded the position if he or she meets the minimum qualifications of the position. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](vii) Casual employees will be laid off and recalled to their job classification in accordance with Section 2 below. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](viii) Casual employees hired prior to September 1, 2006 who possess a CDL shall become full-time employees after two (2) years. If the employee does not possess the CDL by January 1, 2009, this provision shall no longer apply. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](g). In developing the initial Local Cartage seniority list referenced above, the Company shall use the employee’s Company seniority date unless a particular employee transferred into his current service center from another service center. In such event, the employee’s transfer date to the current service center shall be used to develop the seniority list. [/FONT]​
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Accelerator said:
That is 100% correct. This is nothing but the "O" manual.
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All the years I have with Overnite I seem to remember they ran the company pretty close to union rules to keep the union out.
It must of worked Overnite never became union. Even the last very bitter battle. But that was Rambo Hoffa's fought.
Sorry didn't mean to bring all that back up.:hide:
 
Skeeter said:
Does everyone interpret the seniority the way I do. It will basically be the same way it is now. Terminal seniority will rule over company seniority except for lay off then it's company seniority.
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According to the contract yes. But in a meeting we had Friday they put it as one line seniority. Road can bid city and reverse which means company seniority will prevail. So I'm still looking for the truth
 
regional management came to our terminal and had a meeting and said overnite did not follow the rules we had thats why it is benificial for both co. and workers to have a contract
 
Landfill2112 said:
According to the contract yes. But in a meeting we had Friday they put it as one line seniority. Road can bid city and reverse which means company seniority will prevail. So I'm still looking for the truth
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Article 5 Page:7

No road employee shall gain "local cartage" seniority under this provision but he/she shall accrue company seniority.
 
mrissue said:
regional management came to our terminal and had a meeting and said overnite did not follow the rules we had thats why it is benificial for both co. and workers to have a contract
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Sure what else do you expect him to say to save face. Mistakes are always made. But for the best part Overnite followed the rules where ever I worked. I've worked out of 4 different terminals during my career.
 
BusterNite said:
Article 5 Page:7

No road employee shall gain "local cartage" seniority under this provision but he/she shall accrue company seniority.
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..Busters right there will be two lists one for local one for road under this contract...Buster could a one list be negotiated in a sub.. ?
 
BusterNite said:
Article 5 Page:7

No road employee shall gain "local cartage" seniority under this provision but he/she shall accrue company seniority.
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Section 2. Layoffs
When it becomes necessary to reduce the working force, the last employee hired on the affected classification seniority list shall be laid off first, unless CDL qualifications are necessary. The affected regular employee may bump the most junior employee in another job classification provided the bumping employee is qualified to do the job. The bumping employee goes to the bottom of the new job classification seniority list. If the employee exercises the right to bump and receives a recall notice, the employee must return to the position from which he/she was laid off. Company benefits will be provided in accordance with the terms of the applicable SPD.
An employee on layoff will be offered work in any or all classifications (road, city, or dock) at his domicile ahead of any casual or probationary employees, provided he/she is available and qualified
 
renegade313 said:
..Busters right there will be two lists one for local one for road under this contract...Buster could a one list be negotiated in a sub.. ?
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It could be. It would have to be voted on at your terminal or region depending on how they allow us to add the supplements. I will find out more tomorrow at our vote meeting.
 
Skeeter said:
Section 2. Layoffs
When it becomes necessary to reduce the working force, the last employee hired on the affected classification seniority list shall be laid off first, unless CDL qualifications are necessary. The affected regular employee may bump the most junior employee in another job classification provided the bumping employee is qualified to do the job. The bumping employee goes to the bottom of the new job classification seniority list. If the employee exercises the right to bump and receives a recall notice, the employee must return to the position from which he/she was laid off. Company benefits will be provided in accordance with the terms of the applicable SPD.
An employee on layoff will be offered work in any or all classifications (road, city, or dock) at his domicile ahead of any casual or probationary employees, provided he/she is available and qualified
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I was only referring to the one list rumor. And that is, no bumping with your seniority into city or road at bid times. Unless you want to go to the bottom. If available work is there.
 
It is a grey area, it is not specified on what happens if you want to bid in another classification.

We will have to wait for the second part of the contract to come out it is 132 pages it is called the

"UPS LTL rules and policies book"
 
Overnite said:
It is a grey area, it is not specified on what happens if you want to bid in another classification.

We will have to wait for the second part of the contract to come out it is 132 pages it is called the

"UPS LTL rules and policies book"
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you got that right LOUD AND CLEAR
 
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