Draw Your Own Conclusions

ok i amy confused. What is the differece between a best offer or a final offer?
Ok TC ill try to explain it a bit better. The I.B.T Rep asked for the company's best offer not there final offer so he could make a decision on where to go next in the negotiations as the company has not produced a serious document in any of the meetings just partial documents that they are changing even as we speak. For example the last word from the company promised the teamster pension would be in there next offer but NO answer as to weather the other core components of the employees demands were mentioned. So what dose all this mean it means simply it ain't over till the fat lady sings!! But she may be humming or choking at this point depending on how you look at the chess game being played . Hope this clears the muddy water a little for you.:smilie_132:
 
This is part of a 23 page report ILRF
11-24-2008

Evidence indicates that Oak Harbor made a decision to permanently replace its
employees well before the current round of collective bargaining began. A representative
of the Teamsters stated that in a meeting with Oak Harbor management in 2007,
company Co-President David Vander Pol informed him that in preparation for the
upcoming round of negotiations later that year, the owners had met earlier with
management from several shipping companies on the East Coast that had successfully
defeated Teamster strikes and eliminated the union from their operations. According to
Hobart, Vander Pol indicated that the company was prepared to pursue this option.
Similarly, a former recruiter of truck drivers for Modern Staffing and Security
Consultants, Inc. (“MSSC”), a company that is now supplying replacement workers for
Oak Harbor, stated that in late 2006 he was told by MSSC President James Rexroat, that
MSSC would be hiring truck drivers to work during a upcoming strike for a “client” in
the Pacific Northwest. Mr. Rexroat informed the recruiter that the client was trying to
“get rid of the union” and that “ome of the jobs would be permanent jobs . . . for the
client.” As subsequent events revealed, the client Rexroat discussed was Oak Harbor.
Although the collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters did, in fact, expire in
October 2007, employees continued working without a contract until the strike began in
September 2008.
MSSC’s efforts to recruit replacement drivers for Oak Harbor also suggest that
the latter’s prior intent was to permanently replace its workforce.
 
It seems to me that the problem is that the company told people that they were looking into permanent replacements in an effort to eliminate the union. If they had simply said that they were looking for replacements to use in the case that a strike was called, then there wouldn't be a problem.

Just the act of preparing for a strike is not, in itself, an ULP. Telling people that your reasons are to break the union would be.

Now, on that topic, it sounds like the company that provided the replacement drivers is on record saying that the brothers told them that they wanted to break the union. My question is this - why would that company go on record saying that? They certainly have more to lose than gain. That does not make any sense to me.
 
Because they were not paying their bills to this MSSC. We had reports straight from the security goons and replacement workers that checks from Joke Harbor to MSSC were bouncing.

They not only treat their employees like crap, but their vendors, too. Even the vendors they were counting on to bust the union.

Sounds like sound business sense, huh? About par for the course with David, if you ask me...

And we have heard with our own ears salemen in Portland telling customers that their intent is to break the union, so let's just quit acting like it's an innocent misunderstanding, and start getting real with the fact that their intent all along was to bust the union. Even the NLRB can see that clearly...
 
how about this. the VP's are tring to break the union so as to sell the company off.if you were trying to sell the company to an east coast carrier it would either have to be all union or all non-union.it would be very difficult to sell a mixed union/non-union company unless selling to a union company.right now with YRC having its problems ,the only major union company right now is ABF. with that said there are a few east coast carriers that could grow with the addition of what OAKH has.just a thought if as posted a few ago about them going out with a bang.
 
how about this. the VP's are tring to break the union so as to sell the company off.if you were trying to sell the company to an east coast carrier it would either have to be all union or all non-union.it would be very difficult to sell a mixed union/non-union company unless selling to a union company.right now with YRC having its problems ,the only major union company right now is ABF. with that said there are a few east coast carriers that could grow with the addition of what OAKH has.just a thought if as posted a few ago about them going out with a bang.
An intact functioning company with a customer base is worth more. Oak Harbor has neither at this point. Would be an auction not a sale.
 
how about this. the VP's are tring to break the union so as to sell the company off.if you were trying to sell the company to an east coast carrier it would either have to be all union or all non-union.it would be very difficult to sell a mixed union/non-union company unless selling to a union company.right now with YRC having its problems ,the only major union company right now is ABF. with that said there are a few east coast carriers that could grow with the addition of what OAKH has.just a thought if as posted a few ago about them going out with a bang.

This might have been the way they were headed. But they had no idea the the union would stand up so strong to them. I am sure they thought a couple of weeks and this would have all been over. Now they have a company operatering at 60% and a reputation of underhanded business tactics and brow beating employees. I'm sure that really adds to the net profit line.
 
We happened across a crab driver who is off because his wife needed surgury, He was putting his quads away. Sounds like he needs time off right? He was very hostile and threated all. We just wished him and his wife well.
 
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