Dutch parliament says ..BAN ISLAM !!!

[falconfan]

I

agree.... Terrorism in the name of religion isn't really religion.....it's terrorism plain and simple...but by the same token, we shouldn't condemn every pratitioner of a religion as terrorists either....condemn those that are perpetrating the crimes....not the ones that aren't.....

The problem is , their religion preaches and teaches terrorism straight from their holy book.Find me a Muslim out of the billions that will tell you that Muhammad was wrong or that the several passages about killing infidels should be struck from their holy book.
Pilot, you are a very smart man and I can't understand how one thinks that those who worship the teachings and support the religion financially aren't part of the terrorists.They are doing what they are taught and you certainly don't see a Muslim uprising to stop them.Maybe you haven't seen some of what they are taught .I know you don't like links but, a very simple google search will show you over 100 verses straight from the Quaran telling their believers to kill and maim everyone that doesn't believe like them.

 

[Northern Flash]

Here we supposedly have poor refugees from war torn countries supposedly in need of help.......yet they have credit, homes, new cars, new furniture ....excellent neighborhoods ........where is their credit/money coming from if they're poor and brand new immigrants?
They're starting out better than 75% of people who've had actual paychecks paid in American Dollars for generations....something's wrong with the picture.

To answer your question.........

 

[Northern Flash]

Just ban the people from them countries.

We don't need to ban ALL people from those countries, but they need to be vetted intensely. And if they can't produce proper documentation, they don't get in. And until the world gets on the same page with the accuracy of the vetting techniques, we need to limit their access to our soil. Donald isn't proposing a total ban on the Muslims, he's proposing a better vetting process from what I gather. And until we figure out an accurate way to check these savages' backgrounds.......I'm with The Donald.

 

[Northern Flash]

Furthermore Sharia law violates our constitution , also they are NOT tolerant of other religions which goes against the very fabric of our country and constitution .

Excellent point.
Sharia Law and our Constitution CAN NOT co-exist.

 

[Northern Flash]

The number one job of government is to protect its people from foreign invaders.

You are exactly right, but unfortunately about 50% of our citizens think that our Govt.'s top priority is to feed those who have no ambition and those who aren't even American citizens.

 

[Northern Flash]

We are a nation of immigrants. In the past those entering this country came here for a better life & to contribute to their new country.

Nowadays, we have more people coming here for free stuff that our Govt. gives them, and more coming here for sinister reasons, versus those coming here for any type of assimilation into our society.

 

[Northern Flash]

The problem is , their religion preaches and teaches terrorism straight from their holy book.Find me a Muslim out of the billions that will tell you that Muhammad was wrong or that the several passages about killing infidels should be struck from their holy book.

That never happens. The furthest they will go is to say that some of the radicals are "just misinterpreting" the language in the Koran.

They are doing what they are taught and you certainly don't see a Muslim uprising to stop them.

There are only a few Muslim leaders that will denounce and condemn this violence from the radicals. And until more get on board it will continue, and we have no choice but to punish all of them until more of them start standing up against it.

 

[Northern Flash]

China ain't playing with them.
China Bans Islam And Says It Does Not Give A Darn To All The Cry Babies Who Complain
by Walid Shoebat on June 30, 2015 in Featured, General

http://shoebat.com/2015/06/30/china...ve-a-darn-to-all-the-cry-babies-who-complain/

In other words, in China, once Islam begins to start trouble, a ban on Islam is issued in the troubled zone. China is telling Muslims that if you want to fast Ramadan, it is fine, but if you want to push your revolution, then a Ramadan-ban is added as a bonus punishment.

Sounds like China hasn't read the American "book of political correctness". Kudos to them for not letting the savages take over their country.

 

[Northern Flash]

Too late for Sweden, a once awesome and wonderful country, overtaken by Islam.

Here is a video on Muslim refugees literally destroying Sweden.
100% liberal socialist policies .

That's pretty sad. They are just a few years ahead of America because we are doing the exact same thing. The part where it said "Sweden is a ship without a captain" applies to America also.
It's coming here sooner than most people think. Most would rather not acknowledge the problem with the Muslims because acknowledgement requires action.........action that most would rather not take.

 

[Northern Flash]

Pilot,maybe you should be our ambassador to ISIS,since you seem to be about dialogue.Tell them how much we love them and want them to be our friends.I say that sarcastically,but that seems to be your logic regarding this group,along with some of our elected officials.They declared war on the world and their challenge MUST be met by a unified effort.Also,trying to equate their terror with "other" religions is preposterous.Look at all the battlefields in the world today and tell me what group has one thing in common in 99% of them.This isn't the crusades and this group cannot be reasoned with.
Level Raqqua(sp),destroy their oil fields,shut down their websites and social media communications,infiltrate their mosques, would all be the start of destroying this group.We cant do that because it would be against their rights and a few civilians might get killed..

Damn.
Where is the button that gives 100 "likes"?

Also,trying to equate their terror with "other" religions is preposterous.Look at all the battlefields in the world today and tell me what group has one thing in common in 99% of them.

 

[Northern Flash]

It's really quite simple.
When coyotes are killing your sheep, you have no choice but to eliminate the coyotes.

 

[DCM_Doc]

Hitlery said all we need to do is "hit the reset button".

 

[Rastus]

With all that's going on in the world with Isis Obama wants to bring in Syrians after even his own agencies say they can't be cleared. Hillary wants to up it 550%. It defies any possible logic. After the email fed/FBI investigation fiasco I can't believe any this government says.

 

[Deleted member 5115]

Hitlery said all we need to do is "hit the reset button".

Where is it? Right next to the 'easy' button?

 

[Bubba74]

Hitlery said all we need to do is "hit the reset button".

"hit" you mean like hit is with a hammer
(a pun on Hillys stupid "wipe the server with a cloth" comment)

 

[pilot87]

Pilot, you are a very smart man and I can't understand how one thinks that those who worship the teachings and support the religion financially aren't part of the terrorists.They are doing what they are taught

a very simple google search will show you over 100 verses straight from the Quaran telling their believers to kill and maim everyone that doesn't believe like them.

Right now there are about 3 1/2 million Muslims living in the United States.... Aside from all the quotes from the Quran saying they must "kill and maim" all of us.....if every muslim, as you and so many others claim, was doing what they are "taught" it would be logical to conclude that there would millions of us non-muslims killed each year....so far we have far more of our own people killing each other than muslims killing us...... .. And when you include all the civilian muslims we've killed in countless bombings in the middle east...I think it's fair to say Americans have killed far more Muslims than Muslims have killed Americans......
Much has been made about Muslims and their strict interpretation and following the teachings of the Quran. But most American Muslims are different in the fact that they are not in the streets murdering non-muslims all day everywhere.... The point I'm making....and made before is that most Muslims are like most Christians in the regard that while claiming to believe in the teachings of Christ....most do not live in strict adherence to those teachings..... It appears that also applies to most muslims living here are not living in strict accordance with the Qurans teachings.....at least in the respect of the requirement to murder millions of us annually..... Being about 1 percent of the total population.....it's not difficult to see they are not a threat to the sovereignty of this Nation....

 

[pilot87]

Excellent point.
Sharia Law and our Constitution CAN NOT co-exist.

And they don't.....and with about 1 percent of the population being Muslim your not going to need to worry that's ever going to happen...... But, be afraid if that's what you want to do..... There are more frightening things going on than being scared of Muslims.....

 

[pilot87]

we have no choice but to punish all of them until more of them start standing up against it.

You claim to want to go by the Consitution......but....now you rather toss it aside because you have been told to fear and hate Muslims.....and we must punish all of them because their leaders haven't "done enough", in your opinion. That doesn't sound like you really care that much for the Constitution.......

 

[pilot87]

Pilot,maybe you should be our ambassador to ISIS,since you seem to be about dialogue.

Ya think?.... Consider the fact I can't even reason with anyone here on these forums..... I doubt that I'd have much success with other ideologues....... Sad to think that the only "solution" and path to a "peaceful" co-exsistance with other Humans around the globe is to murder and annihilate as many of those that we dont like as we can....... It's a poison that afflicts us, as a nation, as much as it has them....... So.....just keep bombing and killing....and they do the same....insane as it is....

I say that sarcastically,but that seems to be your logic regarding this group,along with some of our elected officials.They declared war on the world and their challenge MUST be met by a unified effort.

The reality seems to be that neither dialog nor War is working.....so in light of that fact.....Dialog is far cheaper monetarily and in terms of human life..... Like I've said before, it's gotten to the point of being out of control and beyond our ability to stop..... What a world we've made for ourselves, as a human race, one full of hate....of fear....and war.......misuse of resources....ruination of our environment.....the sad list goes on.....
Yes.....more war hate and fear won't "fix" it either....but you think that is worth it to keeping trying.....rather than dialog......which is far less destructive and costly even if its not any more effective....

Also,trying to equate their terror with "other" religions is preposterous

Where did I do that?....perhaps you misunderstood a comment.....

Level Raqqua(sp),destroy their oil fields,shut down their websites and social media communications,infiltrate their mosques, would all be the start of destroying this group.We cant do that because it would be against their rights and a few civilians might get killed..

That's just a ramped up version of things already proven not to work....more of the same...... We kill them.....they kill us..... We kill more of them.....they respond by killing more of us..... We don't care about their civilians......they don't care about our civilians......and yet We think we are better than them.....and they think they are better than us....We respond to our cultural, political and religious differences in much the same ways.....yielding much the same results........ Not a very hopeful picture going forward is it?

 

[SAC75]

You claim to want to go by the Consitution......but....now you rather toss it aside because you have been told to fear and hate Muslims.....and we must punish all of them because their leaders haven't "done enough", in your opinion. That doesn't sound like you really care that much for the Constitution.......

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/immigration-act

This has been a law sense 1952. For national security you can keep entire countries, regions, and radical groups out of this country. I agree with it.