Yellow | Extension of Pension Contribution Deferrals? ( YRC Teamster Poll)

[quote author=ICE RIDER link=topic=79828.msg833888#msg833888 date=1275161379]
A couple Union Reddaway shops in the Northwest have not taken a pay cut the rest of us have! every other Reddaway Terminal took the 15% cut just like you, so at least keep the facts straight. We are no better off in this crap than you, we were alot better off before YRC bought us and gutted us. The only reason our Denver terminal is hiring is because so many are leaving.
[/quote]YRC= YELLOW RUINS COMPANIES :thumbsup:
 
You are right, and they have. We all are just working people trying to make a living and support our families. Yellow drivers, Roadway, Reddaway and others, YRC has screwed us all.
 
We have given up enough already to keep this company going. Zollars and Hoffa told us what they needed to stay afloat and we gave in to them . I for one am sorry we did. What was gained by it ? Teamsters lost jobs, work conditions are bad, money is still being lost at alarming rates, and it now looks like our pensions are going down the drain. Zollars needs to pay into the funds Jan. 2011 like it was promised or close the god damn doors. Enough is enough!!!!!! :buttkisser: :hissy: :rant:
 
[quote author=ROADY link=topic=79828.msg833913#msg833913 date=1275167939]
We have given up enough already to keep this company going. Zollars and Hoffa told us what they needed to stay afloat and we gave in to them . I for one am sorry we did. What was gained by it ? Teamsters lost jobs, work conditions are bad, money is still being lost at alarming rates, and it now looks like our pensions are going down the drain. Zollars needs to pay into the funds Jan. 2011 like it was promised or close the god damn doors. Enough is enough!!!!!! :buttkisser: :hissy: :rant:
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Exactly right and there is no point in being a teamster if their is no pension,the pay and benefits are as good or better with the larger non-union LTLs.The only people who need a union without a pension are the **** *** who can't keep a job.
 
I'm so pissed off at how this company has been run this passed year .H$LL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :beerchug:
 
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[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
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Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
 
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[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
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Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
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In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
 
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[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
[/quote]
Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
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In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
 
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[quote author=jimmy g link=topic=79828.msg834639#msg834639 date=1275484932]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg834345#msg834345 date=1275368902]
[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
[/quote]
Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
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In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
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Where do you come up with this crap I.S. , INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS UP MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY ON TRACK WITH WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
 
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[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg834345#msg834345 date=1275368902]
[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
[/quote]
Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
[/quote]

In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
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Where do you come up with this crap I.S. , INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS UP MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY ON TRACK WITH WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
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I apoligize for going WAY off topic, however I would like to refute one statement. Whether you have access to a form to file a greivance or not, a protest may be filed. You must submit in writing to your Business Agent the article violated and the facts surround that violation. (Times, dates, locations, unit numbers, names, etc.) :thumbsup:
 
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[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg834345#msg834345 date=1275368902]
[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
[/quote]
Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
[/quote]

In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
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Where do you come up with this crap I.S. , INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS UP MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY ON TRACK WITH WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
[/quote]It isn't crap. I have a good friend who happens to be an auditor, for big corporate banking. It just so happens that my friend is auditing YRCW and their banks as we speak. YRCW's off-shore accounts looks profitable, where they can use that money for people's pensions. As long as the money isn't in America, YRCW can spend any way they want. When everyone voted Yes, YRCW took that money and is hiding it in off-shore accounts for their other trucking companies they have around the world other than the US, and they can legally do that. The only trucking companies that aren't making a profit, are the union companies of YRCW. So if YRCW wants to file Chapter 11, they can request to a judge that YRCW will be profitable under a non-union work force. The judge can grant them their request and wipe YRCW's debt off, and start over having a new clean line of credit, under a non-union work force. Notice how Glenmore is hiring drivers like crazy, also Glenmore is handled by YRCW's off-shore accounts. I believe our checks are made out by people who live in India. See the connection? It is what CF did to get Con-way going, but without the off-shore accounts.
 
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[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg834345#msg834345 date=1275368902]
[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
[/quote]
Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
[/quote]

In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
[/quote]



Where do you come up with this crap I.S. , INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS UP MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY ON TRACK WITH WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
[/quote]It isn't crap. I have a good friend who happens to be an auditor, for big corporate banking. It just so happens that my friend is auditing YRCW and their banks as we speak. YRCW's off-shore accounts looks profitable, where they can use that money for people's pensions. As long as the money isn't in America, YRCW can spend any way they want. When everyone voted Yes, YRCW took that money and is hiding it in off-shore accounts for their other trucking companies they have around the world other than the US, and they can legally do that. The only trucking companies that aren't making a profit, are the union companies of YRCW. So if YRCW wants to file Chapter 11, they can request to a judge that YRCW will be profitable under a non-union work force. The judge can grant them their request and wipe YRCW's debt off, and start over having a new clean line of credit, under a non-union work force. Notice how Glenmore is hiring drivers like crazy, also Glenmore is handled by YRCW's off-shore accounts. I believe our checks are made out by people who live in India. See the connection? It is what CF did to get Con-way going, but without the off-shore accounts.
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Not sure what kind of school your attending but I think your facts are wrong.

1. Really don't think YRCW is hiding money in an offshore account,since they have none to hide.
2. Some of the Yrcw companies that are profitable right now are union,Glenmoore,New Penn,most of USF all Union,so what exact companies are you talking about.
3.A Judge can't do anything about making YRC a non-union company.
4.Payroll being processed in India had to do with the company trying to save money,not some big conspiracy theory.
5.Did you work for CF? I did and it was an entirely different situation. Sure they siphoned profits from CF to get conway going and built it up over almost 20 years all the while we complained about Double-breasting the Union did nothing saying they were a small regional company and wouldn't be competitive with CF.They didn't shut cf down and start non-union,before that could happen a business would have to be closed for 5 years.If it were that easy to get out of a Union contract it would be happening all the time.
 
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[quote author=albag link=topic=79828.msg833637#msg833637 date=1275077681]
[quote author=Italian Style link=topic=79828.msg827091#msg827091 date=1273023424]
I put a check mark on NO, but in reality it will pass again. No one will be able to make more $ anywhere else.
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Don't tell me that reality has affected your opinions. :chairshot: NO way am I happy about the situation at YRC, however with 22+ years (5 weeks vacation, 13:00 start, and full scale -15%) I won't do any better ANYWHERE else. :cry:
[/quote]Not true, if people supported their union and attended meetings to help organize other trucking companies, it can only get better than worse for everyone else. One good way to support oneself and others is to file grievances on unfair work practices that YRC continues to take advantage of people on at work, every day. I kicked, slammed, and broke that lock against the wall on the file cabinet for a reason. So everyone at YRC can have access in getting a grievance sheets when needed. Take a pick, it isn't hard to find anything to file on. YRC makes an average of $1,200 per person working in one month's pay. There are ways of reclaiming that money. Put it a grievance form. Everyone still pays union dues, so if there is an opportunity, "GET R DONE!"
[/quote]

In Good Economic Times, with a Financially Stable Compay-- sure. Today, it would only eat up the operating cash-- IF it even got heard. You're simply wasting your time. .....
[/quote]I disagree, YRC has plenty of off-shore accounts that their hiding from everyone. So basically, no one can be a Teamster, because of Economic Times? The time that is wasted, is the time not filling out a grievance sheet in claiming for the lost $, IMO.
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Where do you come up with this crap I.S. , INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS UP MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY ON TRACK WITH WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
[/quote]It isn't crap. I have a good friend who happens to be an auditor, for big corporate banking. It just so happens that my friend is auditing YRCW and their banks as we speak. YRCW's off-shore accounts looks profitable, where they can use that money for people's pensions. As long as the money isn't in America, YRCW can spend any way they want. When everyone voted Yes, YRCW took that money and is hiding it in off-shore accounts for their other trucking companies they have around the world other than the US, and they can legally do that. The only trucking companies that aren't making a profit, are the union companies of YRCW. So if YRCW wants to file Chapter 11, they can request to a judge that YRCW will be profitable under a non-union work force. The judge can grant them their request and wipe YRCW's debt off, and start over having a new clean line of credit, under a non-union work force. Notice how Glenmore is hiring drivers like crazy, also Glenmore is handled by YRCW's off-shore accounts. I believe our checks are made out by people who live in India. See the connection? It is what CF did to get Con-way going, but without the off-shore accounts.
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Not sure what kind of school your attending but I think your facts are wrong.

1. Really don't think YRCW is hiding money in an offshore account,since they have none to hide.
They are however selling stock overseas now. Raising money in different countries. See Yahoo finance search YRCW. They are also building the infrastructure of their global companies. The money is coming from somewhere.
2. Some of the Yrcw companies that are profitable right now are union,Glenmoore,New Penn,most of USF all Union,so what exact companies are you talking about.
They quote rates from a centralized number, thus can redirect freight to whatever company they choose simply by altering its rate structure AND changing the "overhead" commission it is required to pay YRCW.
3.A Judge can't do anything about making YRC a non-union company.
In bankruptsy court, the judge is omnipotent. He can void labor contracts with the stroke of a pen.
4.Payroll being processed in India had to do with the company trying to save money,not some big conspiracy theory.
I agree, it was probably just a dollars and sense decision.
5.Did you work for CF? I did and it was an entirely different situation. Sure they siphoned profits from CF to get conway going and built it up over almost 20 years all the while we complained about Double-breasting the Union did nothing saying they were a small regional company and wouldn't be competitive with CF.They didn't shut cf down and start non-union,before that could happen a business would have to be closed for 5 years.If it were that easy to get out of a Union contract it would be happening all the time.

However, by rebranding and linking the YRC subsidiaries, they can alter and redirect freight the non union LTL side (Reddeway) and merge it with Glen Moore, making it a national company. GlenMoore is already being branded as YRC.
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3.
In bankruptsy court, the judge is omnipotent. He can void labor contracts with the stroke of a pen.
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I may not know much-- But that one's a fact!!!!!!
 
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3.
In bankruptsy court, the judge is omnipotent. He can void labor contracts with the stroke of a pen.
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I may not know much-- But that one's a fact!!!!!!
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I'll give you guys that one,but its a moot point as i don't think it has ever happened in the trucking industry.

An aside...what good is our Union these days,when I go down to the hall and ask a question that the BA should know I can't get an answer.I guess I should quit wasting my time.
 
1. Really don't think YRCW is hiding money in an offshore account,since they have none to hide.

I believe YRCW had spent over 130 million on the last COO. Where do you think YRC got the $ to do that? I wouldn't be having a COO if YRC doesn't have the Capital or the credit to start with, supposedly. YRC got the $ from their off-shore accounts to create a COO, with their businesses they set up in China. If you were trying to create a Global Economy through your trucking company, and you owed one billion $, plus pension $ to your employees, would you want to stay union? With UPS not paying into the pension anymore, you would looking for a way out as well, because YRC won't and never will pay into the pension again. Now YRC wants another year extension on not paying into the pension. Is there going to be a vote on that issue, or is everyone going to let the company slide with the :bs:, yet again?

2. Some of the Yrcw companies that are profitable right now are union,Glenmoore,New Penn,most of USF all Union,so what exact companies are you talking about.

Not all of Glenmore is union, and with each sales personnel leaving YRCW, they take some of the business with them.

3.A Judge can't do anything about making YRC a non-union company.

If YRCW requests it, a judge can approve with one stroke of the pen. In doing that YRCW can establish new credit, and become debt free. All YRCW has to do, is show the losses.

4.Payroll being processed in India had to do with the company trying to save money,not some big conspiracy theory.

I wouldn't be surprised if dispatchers and management would be out of India too. Didn't a Mc Donald's restaurant have people from India taking orders through the drive through window? I can see YRC install cameras with a loud speaker on the dock, and put them in the trucks for the drivers, as well. What can anyone do to a dispatcher or management that is 10,000 miles away? Can you imagine a man from India on the loud speaker in the truck and his face on a TV monitor, asking a driver where is freight is at? :biglaugh:

5.Did you work for CF?

I don't have to work for CF, knowing that YRC is pulling the same :bs:. They are just doing a better job on hiding the facts.

Now I hope YRCW doesn't do that, but they can if they really want too.
 
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