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What do you mean National TV again?
Why don't you guys try slowing it down a bit.
Some of those FEd EX drivers are dangerous at times, I know. they pass me every day
This is a clear case of not being totally focused on what your doing.
In the smith system we UPS Freight safety trainers train our co-workers with.
It has many safe guards.
Stay back from the pack.
When your back aways you can get the big picture,of whats up ahead.
Alwayus expect the unexpected,don't take anything forgranted.
Keep your eyes moving 2 seconds front,left to center,to the right side,and back.
If your aways looking around you won't get in that zone of staring out the windshield where you could even doze off while your zipping down the highway.
UPS has their share of wreaks because its such a huge company.
But by following the smith system that we teach your a lot safer,and not apt to get yourself into a jam.
This is a clear case of not being totally focused on what your doing.
In the smith system we UPS Freight safety trainers train our co-workers with.
It has many safe guards.
Stay back from the pack.
When your back aways you can get the big picture,of whats up ahead.
Alwayus expect the unexpected,don't take anything forgranted.
Keep your eyes moving 2 seconds front,left to center,to the right side,and back.
If your aways looking around you won't get in that zone of staring out the windshield where you could even doze off while your zipping down the highway.
UPS has their share of wreaks because its such a huge company.
But by following the smith system that we teach your a lot safer,and not apt to get yourself into a jam.
It's unfortunate that Fed Ex is in a negative spotlight again. The bigger picture would be to look at the HOV regulations and maybe start a movement to roll them back to the previous regs that were in place. It seems that a lot of companies are having a problem with more accidents than they were before these regs went into effect. Unfortunatley, the companies were the ones that pushed for the extra hour of driving per day, all the while when we were telling them it would lead to fatigued drivers on the road. That plus calling drivers on 8 for 10, 14 hour days without being able to stretch the day with "off duty time" breaks during the course of the day, but what do we know???? We only do this every day.
Well if you said it was due to the new HOS it must be a fact. What the HELL made you even write that???????It's unfortunate that Fed Ex is in a negative spotlight again. The bigger picture would be to look at the HOV regulations and maybe start a movement to roll them back to the previous regs that were in place. It seems that a lot of companies are having a problem with more accidents than they were before these regs went into effect. Unfortunatley, the companies were the ones that pushed for the extra hour of driving per day, all the while when we were telling them it would lead to fatigued drivers on the road. That plus calling drivers on 8 for 10, 14 hour days without being able to stretch the day with "off duty time" breaks during the course of the day, but what do we know???? We only do this every day.
Well if you said it was due to the new HOS it must be a fact. What the HELL made you even write that???????
Well if you said it was due to the new HOS it must be a fact. What the HELL made you even write that???????
river17 said:Probably someone that thinks he makes enough money driving just ten hours, and does not like the "flexibility" of driving 11 hours to be more productive.
Under the old rules, you were able to go "top line" for breaks and lunch periods, thus effectively lengthening your day. Not any more. Every minute you take for coffee, pit stops, meals, etc, counts toward your total hours for the day. I remember when I was able to do that and actually be able to drop another satelite terminal during the course of the day, but no longer due to the 14 total hour rule. Top lining actually made us more productive by keeping more hours available each day. Every body talks about faster trucks to go more miles, to make more money. Personally, I'm glad our trucks only do 62-65mph at best. The faster you go, the less time you have to react in an emergency. Plus, as mentioned, there is the fatigue factor. Many drivers, especially non union, for fear of retaliation from the bosses, or independent drivers will rarely admit when they are fatigued...some don't even realize it when they are. We are not supermen, we get tired. To deny this fact for the sake of making another $25 or $30 per day is rediculous.
Truth is, I gave up road work 7 years ago and I am quite content to do city work every day. Usually I put in a 10 - 12 hour day, I make my $65,000+ per year, and I am in my own bed every night.
My run everyday is 544 miles in a 55 mph area. It takes me 10.5 hours to drive that plus any work time I have hooking triples, getting repairs done or for that matter chaining. With the exception of the chaining I have no problem driving 10.5 hours and the 14 hour rule really has little or no effect on me or anyone else who runs that route. Even if I do get tired I can always park and go to bed, even if I am not at my destination. Every one else has the same option, no matter who they work for. If you know someone who is being forced to work even though he is fatigued, give him the phone number of a good labor attorney. Then he won't have to work any more.If you look at statistics since the new HOS rules went into effect, you will notice a rise in truck accidents throughout most of the industry. I didn't write it as a fact, but merely an educated observation. When safety is jeapordized in the name of productivity, the companies will usually end up paying for it one way or the other. Were you aware of the fact that one single accident with fatalities will cost a company on average about $3.4million.
Under the old rules, you were able to go "top line" for breaks and lunch periods, thus effectively lengthening your day. Not any more. Every minute you take for coffee, pit stops, meals, etc, counts toward your total hours for the day. I remember when I was able to do that and actually be able to drop another satelite terminal during the course of the day, but no longer due to the 14 total hour rule. Top lining actually made us more productive by keeping more hours available each day. Every body talks about faster trucks to go more miles, to make more money. Personally, I'm glad our trucks only do 62-65mph at best. The faster you go, the less time you have to react in an emergency. Plus, as mentioned, there is the fatigue factor. Many drivers, especially non union, for fear of retaliation from the bosses, or independent drivers will rarely admit when they are fatigued...some don't even realize it when they are. We are not supermen, we get tired. To deny this fact for the sake of making another $25 or $30 per day is rediculous.
Truth is, I gave up road work 7 years ago and I am quite content to do city work every day. Usually I put in a 10 - 12 hour day, I make my $65,000+ per year, and I am in my own bed every night.
Animo916
I probably agree with most of what you mentioned.
The only two good parts of the new HOS rules is the 34 hours restart clock and the 10 hours off-duty/sleeper time before driving again. Maybe if you sleep in the truck, 8 hours might be enough. But for us that do layover runs the old 8 hours, meant that you only slept 5 hours before starting again. Usually it took 1 hour to get picked up to go to the motel, plus eating something and watching a little TV. And then you get a 2 hour call before going to work. Now with the 10 hour break, you get at least 7 hours of sleep.
Where I don't agree with the new HOS is the rules for sleeper teams. Many years ago when I used to run sleeper team, I used to run 5 on 5 off. I could not sleep or drive more than 5 hours knowing that I had somebody in the sleeper that I could change with.
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