Vwaggs
I would say about a 25 - 30% chance they shut down. About a 65 - 70% chance they don't. I believe they will come back with another offer, based on truth this time. It may include another pension deferral for a year or two, as well as hard concessions they would like; for example, the drop n hook stuff and other flexibility issues. I think if the next offer would be relatively "above board", without all the "back door, destroy the NMFA" clauses that are engineered into this one, it would be viewed favorably.
I think an offer like that, without backdoor clauses and destroy the NMFA clauses, would pass.
I do believe that anyone that votes for this one will regret it, when they see how it actually is applied.
I think that YRCW management, if they were to actually bargain in good faith, would find the Teamsters and YRC management want this company to survive and prosper as much as they do. I believe we could all make this a lean mean company, if the top would listen to the bottom and they could work together.
Amen Brother, good thing the yes voters aren't fighting our wars we would all be speaking Arabic.
I would say about a 25 - 30% chance they shut down. About a 65 - 70% chance they don't. I believe they will come back with another offer, based on truth this time. It may include another pension deferral for a year or two, as well as hard concessions they would like; for example, the drop n hook stuff and other flexibility issues. I think if the next offer would be relatively "above board", without all the "back door, destroy the NMFA" clauses that are engineered into this one, it would be viewed favorably.
Vwaggs I have to agree with you 100% on this.........They have a plan B and only the smart Teamsters as you know this.........Vote no and the company will come back with another offer that may work for all......
Perhaps some of the yes voters in need of a backbone are thinking of retirement.Not nearly as much as I wish, believe me. Like many others, that is a big reason I hang around.
Not nearly as much as I wish, believe me. Like many others, that is a big reason I hang around.
I think if the next offer would be relatively "above board", without all the "back door, destroy the NMFA" clauses that are engineered into this one, it would be viewed favorably.
That's a big EF'ing "IF" "bro".Hey glide-Johnson and smid have already said theres no coming back with a No. Dangerous game of bluff calling here bro. Well be in a miuch better postion to get our way down the road IF the company exists.
Perhaps some of the yes voters in need of a backbone are thinking of retirement.
If I was a year or two from retirement then I would vote yes. I don't think I could start over and physically be able to strip trailers all night again and or take out some of the peddle loads that the junior guy will get.Would"nt they be considered Meesters? They are only voting yes because they need a year or two to retire, and then who cares what happens to everyone else?If the contract is reworked to the detriment of everyother brother and sister, so be it . I made it to retirement?
Hey glide-Johnson and smid have already said theres no coming back with a No. Dangerous game of bluff calling here bro. Well be in a miuch better postion to get our way down the road IF the company exists.