ODFL | Insurance Benefits

Sad!! The Insurance we have today is really getting bad on payed out Benefit's.For what we pay and the amount of money this Company and Top Management rack's in.Personally I would rather them not give me the big raise and just help us out on better benefit's,lower copay's,out of pocket expense.Also,think they need to start auditing United Heathcare for sure.There is just to much stuff being done that we are not aware of till we find out after the fact.
Time for a Union vote in the teamsters my insurance is free whole family too with a 300 deductible
 
It's true it's crap that each year they sneak in more cost to us to keep the premium the same. Usually co-pay increases. $150 copay for a cat-scan is ridiculous pretty much paying the whole thing in some places. ER visits are ridiculously huge copay then still having to pay a percentage. where we still have it good is the low or no deductible depending on which plan you are on. But where we were at 10 years ago was better. The fact that they don't have a decent 401K match (a good company is 100% match up to employees 6%), they don't pay overtime, they don't pay on duty time, in the beginning I touted the good health care as the trade-off. But it's slowly diminishing.
And there you have it...part of the reason the OR is so low.
 
Funny..doesnt liik like Union Representation has done too much for you Unioin carriers lately. Think I read YRC drivers have lost an average of 120k in wages over the past 10 years, ABF drivers say they got a crap contract and now UPS freight guys wouldn get out and vote so what is they got? they say another crap contract. Think I will stick to my non-union and keep what we have cuz sounds like union guys dont get much for your DUES money...Good Luck back at ya
 
Funny..doesnt liik like Union Representation has done too much for you Unioin carriers lately. Think I read YRC drivers have lost an average of 120k in wages over the past 10 years, ABF drivers say they got a crap contract and now UPS freight guys wouldn get out and vote so what is they got? they say another crap contract. Think I will stick to my non-union and keep what we have cuz sounds like union guys dont get much for your DUES money...Good Luck back at ya
What you read was 1 driver claiming he's lost $120k over the last 10 years. YRCW has been mismanaged for over a decade. ABF and UPGF both got guaranteed pay raises and no increase in insurance cost for the next 5 years. Sure we pay about $16 a week in dues but then again the company can't up and change the rules mid game nor can we be terminated for some bs reason. Btw we get a pension.
 
What you read was 1 driver claiming he's lost $120k over the last 10 years. YRCW has been mismanaged for over a decade. ABF and UPGF both got guaranteed pay raises and no increase in insurance cost for the next 5 years. Sure we pay about $16 a week in dues but then again the company can't up and change the rules mid game nor can we be terminated for some bs reason. Btw we get a pension.

Depending on where you live, that last statement may not be entirely true. Can you honestly tell me that CSPF is going be around in 30 years? I’ve thought very hard about going to ABF because there’s a terminal not 5 minutes from my house. The pension issue is one thing that’s held me back.
 
Depending on where you live, that last statement may not be entirely true. Can you honestly tell me that CSPF is going be around in 30 years? I’ve thought very hard about going to ABF because there’s a terminal not 5 minutes from my house. The pension issue is one thing that’s held me back.
I cant honestly speak to the CSPF mine is with UPGF. It's much more secure and fully insured. I feel sure any future LTL companies that decide to join would keep their pension in house.
 
I cant honestly speak to the CSPF mine is with UPGF. It's much more secure and fully insured. I feel sure any future LTL companies that decide to join would keep their pension in house.

That’s the answer I always get from folks, “well my pension is fine”... most of us would fall under CSPF. UPS should have never been allowed to leave to form their own pension. I also believe all pension funds should be combined into one nationwide fund. Teamsters were once covered by one contract, why can’t they have one pension? That’s union right? It would save CSPF and greatly reduce the risk of massive benefit cuts. Besides, shared sacrifice and a guarantee of a prosperous future for the union and its future members should be the ultimate goal.
 
That’s the answer I always get from folks, “well my pension is fine”... most of us would fall under CSPF. UPS should have never been allowed to leave to form their own pension. I also believe all pension funds should be combined into one nationwide fund. Teamsters were once covered by one contract, why can’t they have one pension? That’s union right? It would save CSPF and greatly reduce the risk of massive benefit cuts. Besides, shared sacrifice and a guarantee of a prosperous future for the union and its future members should be the ultimate goal.
The CSPF is in the red zone due to some very bad financial decisions...some dating back to the 1960’s. Watch the movie ‘Casino’ for an example. The reason we ‘others’ keep saying “my pension fund is fine” is because they ARE, and every time the argument gets rolling about organizing, the ‘nons’ trot out the CSPF as an example. Yet, there’s not much conversation about the Teamsters funds that are doing quite well. The CSPF argument is old and tired....time to give it a rest, fellas.

I’m in the Western Conference, which last I heard, was 91% funded...CLEARLY in the green zone. How ‘bout we turn the tide and start discussing the GOOD funds?
 
The CSPF is in the red zone due to some very bad financial decisions...some dating back to the 1960’s. Watch the movie ‘Casino’ for an example. The reason we ‘others’ keep saying “my pension fund is fine” is because they ARE, and every time the argument gets rolling about organizing, the ‘nons’ trot out the CSPF as an example. Yet, there’s not much conversation about the Teamsters funds that are doing quite well. The CSPF argument is old and tired....time to give it a rest, fellas.

I’m in the Western Conference, which last I heard, was 91% funded...CLEARLY in the green zone. How ‘bout we turn the tide and start discussing the GOOD funds?

I’m not even talking about organizing. The problem with your argument is that so many of us would fall under CSPF is because the fund covers so much of the country. It does no good to talk about other funds when you know that because of where you live your pension would fall under CSPF. Even if I were talking about organizing, which I am not, there’s no way the Teamsters would allow a new carrier under their collective bargaining agreement to not fall into current retirement funds. That’s their meal ticket out from the mess that is currently CSPF. I’ve seen the movie Casino, it was very good and very interesting. I wonder if those pension loans the mob got ever got repaid. That’s the corruption I have spoken about in the past and others like me who are not currently union members speak of as a negative of union membership. There are definitely good points to collective-bargaining, but when you have to worry about your own union stabbing you in the back and leaving you high and dry, it becomes a more complicated situation.
 
I’m not even talking about organizing. The problem with your argument is that so many of us would fall under CSPF is because the fund covers so much of the country. It does no good to talk about other funds when you know that because of where you live your pension would fall under CSPF. Even if I were talking about organizing, which I am not, there’s no way the Teamsters would allow a new carrier under their collective bargaining agreement to not fall into current retirement funds. That’s their meal ticket out from the mess that is currently CSPF. I’ve seen the movie Casino, it was very good and very interesting. I wonder if those pension loans the mob got ever got repaid. That’s the corruption I have spoken about in the past and others like me who are not currently union members speak of as a negative of union membership. There are definitely good points to collective-bargaining, but when you have to worry about your own union stabbing you in the back and leaving you high and dry, it becomes a more complicated situation.
Not sure what state you’re in, but...hypothetically speaking, of course....perhaps as the organization drive got going, you could petition the Union to be in the Western Conference Fund? I don’t know how that all works, maybe somebody out there does and could provide some insight?
 
Not sure what state you’re in, but...hypothetically speaking, of course....perhaps as the organization drive got going, you could petition the Union to be in the Western Conference Fund? I don’t know how that all works, maybe somebody out there does and could provide some insight?

I live in Georgia. I still think the best thing to do would be to combine all the funds into one big pot. I’m not sure, but one would think that by doing so it might bring the levels of the funds that are really hurting into manageable levels. Might make it possible for everyone to get their full pension rather than there being such disparity once all the cows come home to roost and we have to start talking pension cuts or none at all. After all, it was no fault of any member of the rank and file that their particular fund was mismanaged more than the next guy.
 
UPGF was never in the CSPF. Before you go stating that you'd be forced into it maybe you should make some calls to the IBT local and ask. As with any decision you make you should always do your due diligence
 
I live in Georgia. I still think the best thing to do would be to combine all the funds into one big pot. I’m not sure, but one would think that by doing so it might bring the levels of the funds that are really hurting into manageable levels. Might make it possible for everyone to get their full pension rather than there being such disparity once all the cows come home to roost and we have to start talking pension cuts or none at all. After all, it was no fault of any member of the rank and file that their particular fund was mismanaged more than the next guy.
I was at our monthly meeting last night. Come to find out, there’s several eastern states in the Western Conference. However, these members are ‘new’ members and employers to the fund. In otherwords, they weren’t already members of a different Teamster Pension Plan. So, any new employer (such as a newly-organized freight company) could join the Western Conference upon ratification. That’s valuable information for any workers thinking of organizing.
 
Depending on where you live, that last statement may not be entirely true. Can you honestly tell me that CSPF is going be around in 30 years? I’ve thought very hard about going to ABF because there’s a terminal not 5 minutes from my house. The pension issue is one thing that’s held me back.

Song, you better take this old man's advise, I know you have a regular run at OD, if you jump out of the frying pan on the bottom af another board, how long will you be running all the crap before getting a bid run?
How many lean years, possible layoffs, you pulling our leg, you're not gonna shoot yourself in the foot, I hope!
 
Song, you better take this old man's advise, I know you have a regular run at OD, if you jump out of the frying pan on the bottom af another board, how long will you be running all the crap before getting a bid run?
How many lean years, possible layoffs, you pulling our leg, you're not gonna shoot yourself in the foot, I hope!

It’s an EOL so it would be a city position. I’m just getting tired of driving in morning traffic to get home. I bought a new car last summer, it’s already got 24k miles on it.
 
It’s an EOL so it would be a city position. I’m just getting tired of driving in morning traffic to get home. I bought a new car last summer, it’s already got 24k miles on it.

I can see how a long commute would be a pain in the butt.
The Big A, has always been a nightmare, before the interstate system, go thru Atl to Birm. coming back home the same night, they would change the truck route, you had to find your way thru town again.
I was lucky, drove 5 miles to work, 15 yrs, 12 miles for 20 yrs, all rural no traffic.
Decisions like job changes would require a lot of thought, you just go with what's best for your situation.
 
I can see how a long commute would be a pain in the butt.
The Big A, has always been a nightmare, before the interstate system, go thru Atl to Birm. coming back home the same night, they would change the truck route, you had to find your way thru town again.
I was lucky, drove 5 miles to work, 15 yrs, 12 miles for 20 yrs, all rural no traffic.
Decisions like job changes would require a lot of thought, you just go with what's best for your situation.
That’s about the easiest commmute I’ve ever heard of. An hour or longer commute 1 way will make you hate a job even if it’s a good one. It did for me anyway.
 
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