I don't know about that... but what I do know about...and not Estes OD and in Denver. They don't give the guys ot over 40. WTH. My non union job pays me time and a half every minute after 8 hours or 10. Depending on the bid. Again non union. So.. my better half at least has a job that pays ot. He would never consider working a job that didn't pay overtime. He is City P and D. For the record bad management brought down many of the mighty teamsters companiesI would like to educate some of you about Estes. When we hire in on linehaul or hub we are and we’re given a choice to go linehaul or hub. Hub works the dock at terminals , linehaul does not. But I must say the linehaul guys that hate waiting , I’ve seen punch in and start working. Hub guys can work the dock. Most do not. They sit in their trucks and wait. I haven’t met one linehaul driver who wishes he went hub. When given a choice most drivers will not clock in. So that being said, why should Estes pay drivers to wait , when drivers have been given many opportunities to work and get paid? Wanting to get paid while not working and passing on work is the entitlement attitude that brought down the mighty teamster companies. For the rare guy who wants to work and can’t and gets screwed, he needs to run it up the flag pole.