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Streaker69 said:
I have a real question here for you, George. Hear me out .

Right now I have my tax deductions set up as a single person, even though I have a family. Reason being, I don't want to get a surprise IRS bill. Roughly 25% of my check goes to taxes. My bennies (maxed 401k , disability etc) cost about 100 a week. After I pay all my bills and buy all the necessities I don't have much left. I live paycheck to paycheck. Most of the country does.

Here's my question: if I live paycheck to paycheck, how do I survive the tax hike that would be necessary to implement your plan of single payer health care? Nobody has ever been able to answer this for me. They deflect and tell me "the right thing to do" and bring up irrelevant points like military spending. Am I supposed to be ok with paying for somebody else' issues? Is it my fault that person decided to live off of McDonald's and cheez doodles? When does personal responsibility take over?

The problem isn't wanting to help people. That's great, but people have to be willing to help themselves first.
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You make a lot of solid points and I agree with you on some of it.

Yes, military spending must be reduced. It is asinine on how much we spend on the MIC.

I think we need to look at the tax rate of billionaires and large corporations. These guys / companies pay hardly anything in taxes or they use loopholes to get them out of paying taxes. It’s ridiculous.

I’d be okay with $10-25 dollar coming out of my check every week for universal healthcare.
 
George Knighton said:
You make a lot of solid points and I agree with you on some of it.

Yes, military spending must be reduced. It is asinine on how much we spend on the MIC.

I think we need to look at the tax rate of billionaires and large corporations. These guys / companies pay hardly anything in taxes or they use loopholes to get them out of paying taxes. It’s ridiculous.

I’d be okay with $10-25 dollar coming out of my check every week for universal healthcare.
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But we know it'll be far more than that. Even if starts at 25 dollars, how long before its 100?

I also think corporations should get a tax break. It's incentive for them to not outsource, keep our country employeed and the citizens able to pay taxes.

I'm also good with the military spending. Things are iffy worldwide and you never know what can happen. Military is one of those things where you say "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it".
 
Streaker69 said:
But we know it'll be far more than that. Even if starts at 25 dollars, how long before its 100?

I also think corporations should get a tax break. It's incentive for them to not outsource, keep our country employeed and the citizens able to pay taxes.

I'm also good with the military spending. Things are iffy worldwide and you never know what can happen. Military is one of those things where you say "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it".
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He’s a troll. He’s only on here to fight. Read any of his posts anywhere else.
 
Streaker69 said:
But we know it'll be far more than that. Even if starts at 25 dollars, how long before its 100?

I also think corporations should get a tax break. It's incentive for them to not outsource, keep our country employeed and the citizens able to pay taxes.

I'm also good with the military spending. Things are iffy worldwide and you never know what can happen. Military is one of those things where you say "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it".
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$25/week is a laughable number. Even $100/week for the Government run universal everything coverage, that is the fantasy of some, might be low as too many will pay zero.

Forcing companies to pay and comply with excess mandates/regulations is why they flee to other countries.

Military falls under SECURITY, the 1st true purpose of the Federal Government. Without Defense/Security, very little matters & and everything is at risk. That's the case, IMHO, whether talking about our home, or the Nation.
 
IG report reveals the sobering truth about CSA — it’s going to be hard to fix

https://www.ccjdigital.com/ig-repor...tm_term=newsletter-2-daily-position-top-story

"Fresh concerns were highlighted last week in a report from the U.S. DOT’s Office of Inspector General (OIG), who pointed to hard truths about the agency’s plan to overhaul the CSA system in an attempt to make it more accurate and more fair. The agency’s plan, announced last July, was based on recommendations from the National Academies of Science (NAS), whose researchers and engineers drafted a blueprint they said would be ideal in addressing CSA’s deficiencies and its mission.

Easier said than done, said DOT’s OIG. Their conclusions, in short: Great plan; now, how are you going to pull it off?

In its response to those concerns, included in the OIG report, the agency mostly shrugged, acknowledging the major hurdles it faces in implementing the plan...

...FMCSA Administrator Ray Martinez said the agency “has no immediate plans” to find new sources of data to feed CSA. He also said the agency won’t decide for up to another year whether it can pursue a revised scoring system, called item response theory."

:popcorn:
 
Speaking of burdensome regulations:

Massachusetts Paid Family and Medical Leave Payroll Deductions Begin Oct. 1, 2019

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/massachusetts-paid-family-and-medical-leave-payroll-deductions-begin-oct-1-2019?utm_content=315afcc857e9be266e1aca628488b154&utm_campaign=2019..10.2Whats Most Read on the National Law Review in Sep 2019&utm_source=Robly.com&utm_medium=email

"...paid medical and family leave benefits effective Jan. 1, 2021. Individuals will be entitled to up to 20 weeks of paid medical leave and 12 weeks of paid family leave per year, with a combined maximum amount of family and medical leave of 26 weeks per year. The benefit amount is based on an individual’s earnings and is capped at $850 per week."

Really? Up to 26 weeks? Paid? PER YEAR? This is real. And the cost to both employer and employee will most certainly rise, hurting those they claim to want to help. Bernie/Warren supporters will likely love it.
 
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SAC75 said:
I drive a truck and choose who preforms a procedure on me or my wife. Guess that makes you dense or I’m rich. I seem to have to keep my job so I’m not rich. Take a guess what that makes you?
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We dont have out of network coverage so you musr be rich if your still picking who you want.
 
Old dude said:
We dont have out of network coverage so you musr be rich if your still picking who you want.
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Teamcare. I work for ABF.

Would having Medicare for all make it better? Funny how my Dad doesn’t get to pick his doctors or specialist.
 
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SwampRatt said:
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$25/week is a laughable number. Even $100/week for the Government run universal everything coverage, that is the fantasy of some, might be low as too many will pay zero.

Forcing companies to pay and comply with excess mandates/regulations is why they flee to other countries.

Military falls under SECURITY, the 1st true purpose of the Federal Government. Without Defense/Security, very little matters & and everything is at risk. That's the case, IMHO, whether talking about our home, or the Nation.
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I agree with you. The government doesn't believe in flat fees. It'd be an income grade and a percentage. The more you gross, the more you pay and the less you make.

Government getting involved with anything makes the price increase and quality decrease. Look at what they did with student loans and health care . A universal/single payer health Care system would be no different.
 
George Knighton said:
SMH. Never mind, never mind.

I hope it has mental health coverage too. *sigh*
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Very mature, George. It's a wonder nobody here entertains your conversations or comments.

You're throwing a lot of "what ifs" out there. No candidate has gone into detail about their plan. Don't you think it's silly to just follow someone blindly with no specific details? What is it about the Democratic platform that attracts you? You defend your platform and ideas by attacking everybody else.
 
Streaker69 said:
Very mature, George. It's a wonder nobody here entertains your conversations or comments.

You're throwing a lot of "what ifs" out there. No candidate has gone into detail about their plan. Don't you think it's silly to just follow someone blindly with no specific details? What is it about the Democratic platform that attracts you? You defend your platform and ideas by attacking everybody else.
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Both Dem’s and Rep’s have no clue what they are doing. Here we are fighting with each other over what healthcare would cost us common folk when all this ::shit:: could be easily solved if we stopped sending billions of dollars every year to other countries. I just read this morning we send $10billion every year to 3 South American countries and Mexico gets 5 of those billions. That’s just 1 example of many I’m not ever aware of. This isn’t a Republican thing or Democrat thing THEY BOTH DO IT.
 
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Both Dem’s and Rep’s have no clue what they are doing. Here we are fighting with each other over what healthcare would cost us common folk when all this :::shit::: could be easily solved if we stopped sending billions of dollars every year to other countries. I just read this morning we send $10billion every year to 3 South American countries and Mexico gets 5 of those billions. That’s just 1 example of many I’m not ever aware of. This isn’t a Republican thing or Democrat thing THEY BOTH DO IT.
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I agree with that. I don't blindly follow the Republican party . My point here is that free stuff for all will never work no matter how you try to crunch the numbers.
 
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