Maybe Home Depot should pay them all a higher wage then maybe everybody will be happy including you with that $3500.00 a month pension that you feel others shouldn't receive.
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Steward of the Rock, I think he is both.
If this whole posting half truths on TB doesn't work out maybe you should think about a comedy career. I believe that you are well aware that we have a progressive tax scale. That Home Depot person that you speak of isn't paying taxes, more than likely he \ she is getting more money back then what was paid in. I would really be surprised if you didn't already know that, given your high degree of financial knowledge. I don't want to pay for unwed mothers or abortions and many other things. Such is life and Butch Lewis is law of the land so it doesn't matter. I think when I pay my taxes I'm putting a note in there telling them they don't have my permissionon to fund those things. I will post how that goes next April.
That happened Day One in 1935, per SCOTUS in Helvering vs Davis -1937
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Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619, was a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare and so did not contravene the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Wikipedia
Date decided: 1937
Dissent: McReynolds, joined by Butler
Citations: 301 U.S. 619 (more)57 S. Ct. 904; 81 L. Ed. 1307; 1937 U.S. LEXIS 1200
Date argued: 1937
Majority: Cardozo, joined by Hughes, Brandeis, Stone, Sutherland, Van Devanter, and Roberts
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I didn't ask if Butch-Lewis was legal. I asked why a taxpayer making $12.00 an hour at Home Depot should subsidize a $20.00 an hour pension. You don't like $12.00, then pick a number. It's wrong for any taxpayer to subsidize a private pension.
Why should a person getting up every day busting there butt making 25.00 an hour paying for someone that is milking the system and getting gov assistant for setting on there butt?
Taxpayers funding abortion or helping druggies get there fix from some meth clinic. Long list of waste, where you want to start?
RB just remember my gofundme if you would like to donate any excess ss/pension you may have, hope it will help you feel better about yourself. Thanks in advance: www.hookmancanusethedough.com. 
Do you have any idea what our government spends money on around the world? Your going to worry about helping out American retired guys? Fix the thousands of ridicules ways Washington Republicans and Democrats flush our taxpayer money down the toilet and then talk to me about the pension bailout!
By the way do you have any idea how much taxes a 12 dollar an hour employee pays in? Pretty close to none especially if they have kids.
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That's the best justification for the pension bailouts, the amount of money we waste overseas....
Help the American taxpayer first, before sending our tax dollars to other countries.
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Start by not adding more waste.
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That has to be the dumbest bullshit comment I have ever seen in the 24 years I have been on here! You have got to be the dumbest Teamster to ever have a card in their pocket!
Mr Razorblade you never replied to this comment...I would think a strong proud capitalist like yourself wouldn't want to be involved in an evil socialist program like health insurance..... I look forward to your spin.....err....I mean thought provoking answer....
Not just overseas! We waste billions or more overseas but we probably waste more domestically? I don't even want to know how much or which is worse! I'll make anyone who doesn't like the pension bailout a deal...when the government stops wasting money on everything that is worse than the pension bailout I will personally write the pension and tell them to stop all pension payments to me! I'm not worried!
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Since the crash of 2007-2008 every major index has at least tripled except some union funds.
Looks like the investments these thieves are making are not good for members
This bail out by taxpayers is yet again proof of the massive incompetence at these union pensions. Truck Drivers with 401k's have over $1 million for themselves with more time to retirement. With less $$$ invested than in pensions funds....
These pensions were already paid for, theft, poor investments are the root cause of any poor performance.
If these pension funds even simply invested in the S&P 500 they would have tripled by now
But then Democrats would not have looked like they were helping by using billions of $$$ of other peoples money...
I feel exactly the same way, and I have stated pretty much the same thing....and brother I don't believe you will be wasting any time writing any letters!!!!
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There is no doubt that Social Security is a fully funded program using no general revenue tax dollars.
The pension became socialist when government general revenue tax dollars were used to subsidize it. It's a welfare program. There can be no argument of that.
Health insurance is indeed a program of collectivism. Straight out of the Karl Marx playbook. Not only that, insurance provides no healthcare but increases costs by 30%. Absolute fact. It's also uniquely American. The rest of the world recognizes healthcare as a human right not an economic privilege of the monied few.
My detractors want to deflect the discussion by pointing out other wasteful spending. They want to tell me to just refuse the benefit and to ignore the injustice of it. Try to stay on topic. Try to defend the special treatment given to the unions by the socialist Democrats. Try to defend forcing the employees at Pitt-Ohio to subsidize your pension with their tax dollars. Try to defend the waiver given to union health care plans by the Affordable Care Act. Try to defend your not paying income tax on employer paid premiums while individual policy holders must pay with after tax dollars.
You want more ammunition to attack me. The farm bill costs over a billion dollars a year. It's welfare for farmers. Minimum price supports for dairy products are welfare for farmers.
The Davis-Bacon Act that requires government to pay prevailing union wages for every project is nonsense. More special treatment for union labor at the expense of the taxpayer. It's an admission that union labor is overpriced and not competitive.
YRC will be gone within five years because they cannot compete with carriers that provide quality service at a lower cost. That is how the free market is supposed to work. That is competitive capitalism.
Union members have killed the golden goose. The more is better and more is never enough mentality of the rank and file is why an IBT Master Freight Agreement with 500,000 LTL members is down to ABF and YRC. 20 years ago, there was no FedEx Freight. Now FedEx is the largest LTL carrier in America. Why? Because they are able to provide quality service at a reasonable price by retaining retaining productive employees who believe in their company and appreciate the excellent pay and benefits provided to them.
If you are truly worth the compensation package you are receiving, you can print out a resume and find another employer who will gladly match your current income.
There is no doubt that Social Security is a fully funded program using no general revenue tax dollars.
The pension became socialist when government general revenue tax dollars were used to subsidize it. It's a welfare program. There can be no argument of that.
Health insurance is indeed a program of collectivism. Straight out of the Karl Marx playbook. Not only that, insurance provides no healthcare but increases costs by 30%. Absolute fact. It's also uniquely American. The rest of the world recognizes healthcare as a human right not an economic privilege of the monied few.
My detractors want to deflect the discussion by pointing out other wasteful spending. They want to tell me to just refuse the benefit and to ignore the injustice of it. Try to stay on topic. Try to defend the special treatment given to the unions by the socialist Democrats. Try to defend forcing the employees at Pitt-Ohio to subsidize your pension with their tax dollars. Try to defend the waiver given to union health care plans by the Affordable Care Act. Try to defend your not paying income tax on employer paid premiums while individual policy holders must pay with after tax dollars.
You want more ammunition to attack me. The farm bill costs over a billion dollars a year. It's welfare for farmers. Minimum price supports for dairy products are welfare for farmers.
The Davis-Bacon Act that requires government to pay prevailing union wages for every project is nonsense. More special treatment for union labor at the expense of the taxpayer. It's an admission that union labor is overpriced and not competitive.
YRC will be gone within five years because they cannot compete with carriers that provide quality service at a lower cost. That is how the free market is supposed to work. That is competitive capitalism.
Union members have killed the golden goose. The more is better and more is never enough mentality of the rank and file is why an IBT Master Freight Agreement with 500,000 LTL members is down to ABF and YRC. 20 years ago, there was no FedEx Freight. Now FedEx is the largest LTL carrier in America. Why? Because they are able to provide quality service at a reasonable price by retaining retaining productive employees who believe in their company and appreciate the excellent pay and benefits provided to them.
If you are truly worth the compensation package you are receiving, you can print out a resume and find another employer who will gladly match your current income.