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Any idea why Estes doesn't placard hazmat on trailers or why they leave placards on empty trailers when I thought it was up to the dock to placards and unplacard per fire and safety reasons
I work for SAIA it's the same here, meet man brings you empties with placards.... On the other hand brings you loaded trailers that should have placards.....Any idea why Estes doesn't placard hazmat on trailers or why they leave placards on empty trailers when I thought it was up to the dock to placards and unplacard per fire and safety reasons
Unless rule has changed......... no.Ultimately, regardless of company policy, it is the driver's responsibility to ensure proper placarding going down the road. I believe, could be wrong, the yard is a safe haven. Placards can remain on even when empty
I think it's as long as the trailer is against the dock it doesn't have to have placards on/off it but as soon as it's pulled away it needs to have the correct placards. That's how it was explained to me when I first started as a dock worker/spotter.Ultimately, regardless of company policy, it is the driver's responsibility to ensure proper placarding going down the road. I believe, could be wrong, the yard is a safe haven. Placards can remain on even when empty
Think this must be on an "Company policy" basis. My company regularly leaves loaded trailers on the ready line with incorrect or no placards. up to us drivers to placard correctly. Empties are sometime left with the placards.I think it's as long as the trailer is against the dock it doesn't have to have placards on/off it but as soon as it's pulled away it needs to have the correct placards. That's how it was explained to me when I first started as a dock worker/spotter.
I work for SAIA it's the same here, meet man brings you empties with placards.... On the other hand brings you loaded trailers that should have placards.....
Unless rule has changed......... no.
When I worked LTL, at the time my employer declared ‘a trailer parked at the dock door is considered an extension of the dock’, thus the practice of putting placards on/off a trailer with every trip of a forklift was eliminated. Once the trailer was closed out, then all appropriate placards are displayed.Wrong the fire Marshall's would have a field day at all the trucking facilities loaded hazmat proper placards are to be put on immediately hazmat taken off hazmat placards are to be taken off immediately by the loader and unloaded for fire reasons
Unless rule has changed......... no.Ultimately, regardless of company policy, it is the driver's responsibility to ensure proper placarding going down the road. I believe, could be wrong, the yard is a safe haven. Placards can remain on even when empty
Wrong. As soon as the haz mat leaves the trailer or goes on it the placards MUST be attached. The Feds DO NOT care who puts them on. They care if the product in the trailer is Haz Mat & communication telling them that info.I think it's as long as the trailer is against the dock it doesn't have to have placards on/off it but as soon as it's pulled away it needs to have the correct placards. That's how it was explained to me when I first started as a dock worker/spotter.
I was told by Safety once the trailer had 2000 lbs or more the placards went on. And some products, but few, did not have to meet the 2000lb threshold. Once the product went below 2000 the placards were flipped. Rare, but 2000 of lacquer thinner & 2000 of batteries could be dangerous placards. Remove all of one & you would have to change it to the corresponding material. As a local driver it could be hard to figure out the Haz Mat placards needed. Got to the point I would call Safety direct & get the answer I needed. There could be to many mistakes from dispatch. It only takes one to cost you 2500 & the company 11,500. I gave the fed's enough over the years. Did not want to increase it. von.Seems to me the law states that whenever a transport vehicle contains a hazardous material it must be placarded. Doesn't say only when moving down the road. Common sense would say placard when loaded to notify/protect anyone involved right?
§172.504 General placarding requirements.
(a) General. Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, each bulk packaging, freight container, unit load device, transport vehicle or rail car containing any quantity of a hazardous material must be placarded on each side and each end with the type of placards specified in tables 1 and 2 of this section and in accordance with other placarding requirements of this subpart, including the specifications for the placards named in the tables and described in detail in §§172.519 through 172.560.
Seems to me the law states that whenever a transport vehicle contains a hazardous material it must be placarded. Doesn't say only when moving down the road. Common sense would say placard when loaded to notify/protect anyone involved right?
§172.504 General placarding requirements.
(a) General. Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, each bulk packaging, freight container, unit load device, transport vehicle or rail car containing any quantity of a hazardous material must be placarded on each side and each end with the type of placards specified in tables 1 and 2 of this section and in accordance with other placarding requirements of this subpart, including the specifications for the placards named in the tables and described in detail in §§172.519 through 172.560.
Yes Placards only apply on public roads. PHMSA cannot fine for placards on private property as there is no jurisdiction.Unless rule has changed......... no.
Yes Placards only apply on public roads. PHMSA cannot fine for placards on private property as there is no jurisdiction.
Same goes for CDL rules.
Now local fire department codes is another story but the placarding rules in 172.504 do not apply on private property
Yes Placards only apply on public roads. PHMSA cannot fine for placards on private property as there is no jurisdiction.
Same goes for CDL rules.
Now local fire department codes is another story but the placarding rules in 172.504 do not apply on private property
On private property, osha has guidance on this. http://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1915/1915.92
1915.92(b)
Any employer who receives a freight container, rail freight car, motor vehicle, or transport vehicle that is required to be marked or placarded in accordance with the U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations shall retain those markings and placards on the freight container, rail freight car, motor vehicle, or transport vehicle until the hazardous materials are sufficiently removed to prevent any potential hazards.
1915.92(c)
The employer shall maintain markings, placards, and labels in a manner that ensures that they are readily visible.
There you go Puffy, how's your foot taste?On private property, osha has guidance on this. http://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1915/1915.92
1915.92(b)
Any employer who receives a freight container, rail freight car, motor vehicle, or transport vehicle that is required to be marked or placarded in accordance with the U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations shall retain those markings and placards on the freight container, rail freight car, motor vehicle, or transport vehicle until the hazardous materials are sufficiently removed to prevent any potential hazards.
1915.92(c)
The employer shall maintain markings, placards, and labels in a manner that ensures that they are readily visible.