Police need to go back to revolvers for service weapons

[Northern Flash]

I'm just telling you how you sound to people who think differently.
You are telling the animals to change their culture.
How does that sound when you think about it?

What someone like you fails to acknowledge is that we have animals among us, of all colors. You try to defend the entire black race as though we are claiming that they are all savages, which is b.s. and you know it.
My black friends are willing to acknowledge it, yet people like you with your overflowing bucket of white guilt refuse to.

The culture within the inner city is the problem. The majority of the working class Blacks are just as disgusted with this inner city behavior as the rest of us are. The majority of my black friends would tell you to go eff yourself with all of your pandering and favoritism b.s.........because they want to be treated just like everyone else.

 

[Northern Flash]

That's why I try and stay with homicide statistics. No one can bs away the dead bodies.

It looks like you have underestimated Magoo.

 

[Magoo]

What someone like you fails to acknowledge is that we have animals among us, of all colors. You try to defend the entire black race as though we are claiming that they are all savages, which is b.s. and you know it.
My black friends are willing to acknowledge it, yet people like you with your overflowing bucket of white guilt refuse to.

The culture within the inner city is the problem. The majority of the working class Blacks are just as disgusted with this inner city behavior as the rest of us are. The majority of my black friends would tell you to go eff yourself with all of your pandering and favoritism b.s.........because they want to be treated just like everyone else.

Gosh your'e such a fair man I didn't realize

 

[Northern Flash]

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that you have never even had contact or affiliation with the Black or Hispanic population. (And no, you don't get to count the Hispanics that mow the grass around your condo, or the Black guy that vacuums the pool either.)
For the rest of that do and have, we know that the majority of the Blacks are tired of this inner city crap also. They think that it's despicable behavior.

 

[Magoo]

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that you have never even had contact or affiliation with the Black or Hispanic population. (And no, you don't get to count the Hispanics that mow the grass around your condo, or the Black guy that vacuums the pool either.)
For the rest of that do and have, we know that the majority of the Blacks are tired of this inner city crap also. They think that it's despicable behavior.

The people I have known no matter what race they happen to be born are all good people.
If they weren't I wouldn't associate with them

 

[troubleman84]

Are you "a little more careful" around certain drivers...Young folks,old folks,rental trucks,low end carriers,etc???I am,because I know the risk is a little higher around certain drivers.It,s human nature.
It,s easy to say they should handle each situation without bias and prejudice,but im sure they would like to get home to their family safe and sound,just like us.I stand by my comment,change the culture,change the perception.

So your saying it's ok for them to be a little more trigger happy. Not trying to be a smart ass just looking for clarity?

 

[troubleman84]

With all due respect Bro, if still believe that Michael Brown had his hands up when he got shot, you should probably avoid these conversations, and get yourself updated on the facts.

That was for bubba and the Louisiana tragedy.

 

[troubleman84]

The two overlap. The violence has become a normal way of life in the inner city, and the past practice relates to the same type of awful upbringing that has been going on for generations.
Two of my closest friends are Black, and they have explained in detail how it works in the inner city, so nobody is going to convince me otherwise.

We will have to agree to disagree then. I lived in suburbs, but do to being raised by single mom and her 3rd shift job I spent days in inner city and experienced it first hand. I wouldn't change any of my experiences in my childhood for I am stronger partially because of it. Knowledge is power.

 

[troubleman84]

Face it. The reason why a Black person puts a police officer on high alert is because that same person is part of the group that commits the most violent crime.
Profiling? Yep. Common sense? Yep.

So even bring black with an 6 figure career more than likely living in a neighborhood better than the officer who pulls him over should automatically be profiled as a criminal cause he is black?

 

[troubleman84]

Exactly. You just made my point. I've never heard where all truck drivers are lumped in to the same group as lunatics, when one driver goes rogue with road rage and takes out a car on purpose. It was just one **** poor driver, and the rest should be exempt from criticism. So why do the police not get the same exemption?

I agree, and when the investigation and all of it's facts have been laid out, that's when we should make our final judgement, and not a minute sooner.
Even a bad cop deserves their day in court, but they also need to pay the price when it's been proven that they failed to do their job properly. Nobody argues that.

Why can't a black man get the same exemption!
Your previous post states that being black put cops on high alert from previous cases. So I'm taking that your saying it's ok for cops to have a certain perception of blacks and be trigger happy because of inner city crime rates? Why can't blacks have the same perception of them ?

 

[troubleman84]

I'm sorry magooie, ihave to call BS on this one.

Depends on which region of the country you reside in.

 

[troubleman84]

They didn't know the mans name when they received call they knew he had a weapon on him that's it.

 

[troubleman84]

They didn't sign up to get murdered by some gang bangers and thugs.
Do you think these most recent police shootings (murders) will improve the situation?

If I were a cop, I'd have my hand on my gun while approaching anyone. Our society has gone to crap.

No they signed to protect and serve the community. If that city the work in has a high murder rate. Common sense tells you it's a risk you can become a statistic working in that area.

 

[a9faninnc]

So your saying it's ok for them to be a little more trigger happy. Not trying to be a smart ass just looking for clarity?

When cops go into certain neighborhoods,im sure some can get the adrenaline going more than others.You say they didnt know this guys record,that might be true,but they were told a man with a gun which probably amps the blood up even more for the cops.If they had any bias about the background of this guy,it turned out to be justified,in this case.
Would an alternative be to let the citizens of these blighted communities patrol their own neighborhoods??I personally would refuse to do it.Some people want these officers to be sitting ducks,instead of being pro-active.

 

[troubleman84]

When cops go into certain neighborhoods,im sure some can get the adrenaline going more than others.You say they didnt know this guys record,that might be true,but they were told a man with a gun which probably amps the blood up even more for the cops.If they had any bias about the background of this guy,it turned out to be justified,in this case.
Would an alternative be to let the citizens of these blighted communities patrol their own neighborhoods??I personally would refuse to do it.Some people want these officers to be sitting ducks,instead of being pro-active.

It is true how would they know the guy's name when they received the call from dispatch but it still doesn't justify how they reacted after they secured the weapon and had him restrained no matter what his record was.

 

[a9faninnc]

It is true how would they know the guy's name when they received the call from dispatch but it still doesn't justify how they reacted after they secured the weapon and had him restrained no matter what his record was.

You can prejudge the situation before all the facts come out,as it seems lots of others have done the same.Shooting cops,inciting riots,blocking commerce,etc. is not a way to gain empathy from the general public,in the mean time.The police officer shooting in Louisiana and Minny have been driven to the back burner by the reactions of some.
BTW,if these officers prove to be guilty in a court of law,let them burn.Until then,hopefully we can recover from the broken pieces of the aftermath.

 

[Northern Flash]

The people I have known no matter what race they happen to be born are all good people.
If they weren't I wouldn't associate with them

If you think that everyone born or that everyone you "have known" are good people, you must live in that town called Fantasyland. Skin color doesn't define a person, but bad behavior sure does.

 

[Northern Flash]

So even bring black with an 6 figure career more than likely living in a neighborhood better than the officer who pulls him over should automatically be profiled as a criminal cause he is black?

The high income Black guy can thank the inner city thugs and their behavior for getting profiled by the police. And since it's a statistical fact that the highest percentage of crime is committed by the Black Community, don't blame the police for trying to protect the rest of society.
The Muslims are being profiled by all of us, Black, White, and Hispanic. And why is that? Because many of them have become untrustworthy. Profiling is just using common sense. For anyone who don't want to be profiled, they should help fix the problem, then it could eventually go away. But in both of these scenarios, neither group wants to address the root cause of the problem, they would rather just blame Whitey.

 

[Northern Flash]

Why can't a black man get the same exemption!

You mentioned "past practice". Past practice is reflected in the national figures and the middle aged Black male being involved in the highest amount of crime within this entire country. And since there are tens of thousands of police interactions with the public, every single day, and only the occasional Police shooting of a black person, in my opinion, the police have the right to use common sense and go on high alert, and there is no excuse whatsoever for a Black person to think that the police are going to shoot him today, since the statistics show that it is very, very, unlikely that they will even have a confrontation, let alone get shot.

Your previous post states that being black put cops on high alert from previous cases. So I'm taking that your saying it's ok for cops to have a certain perception of blacks and be trigger happy because of inner city crime rates? Why can't blacks have the same perception of them ?

I understand that you are just using "trigger happy" as a way to sensationalize the issue, but the statistics clearly DO NOT show that the police are trigger happy has a group. Is there a few that panic or make mistakes on occasion? Heck ya, and one mistake is too many in my opinion, but they are human beings, and they would like to go home to their families each night, just like we do.

If you choose to never read another post of mine, that's fine, but do me one favor and watch this video..........It's only 2:09 seconds, but it says it all.

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2014/12/21/the-policeman-by-paul-harvey/

 

[Northern Flash]

They didn't know the mans name when they received call they knew he had a weapon on him that's it.

That's all that is required for the police to be on edge. The CD's that he was selling illegally weren't going to kill the cops, and without the illegal gun, the police would have never even drawn theirs.
So the police should give a guy with a gun that is threatening people the benefit of the doubt? You can't be serious.
And had he complied with their commands, he wouldn't have even ended up on the ground to begin with.