POLITICS Question On Your Thoughts On A Health Care Change.

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  1. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Some want it to stay as is, some want it to go back pre ACA, some want a complete Medicare for all and some want something a more nuanced system.

    What about this?
    Would you support some sort of Public Option where people could decide on their own to buy into a government managed health care system, lets just say they will have the option to buy into Medicare.

    Or they could continue on with what they have now from their employer or whomever they currently receive it from.

    It sounds like a fair compromise, keep what you have if you want to or choose to buy into Medicare.
    And I said buy into so please don't start with the FREE analogy. It won't be free, just like your current insurance is not free.

    So think about it and tells us what you think thumbs up, thumbs down?
     
  2. LewSir

    LewSir Well-Known Member

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  4. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I'm guessing no one has an opinion on what to do then
     
  5. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Most of us have given our opinion 10 times. We like our coverage the way it is.
     
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  6. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    In 2009, 90% of people had insurance they liked, and ObamaCare destroyed that so 10% could be satisfied.

    End OCare, allow insurance to compete alacarte aross state lines, and then find a way to provide for the 10%. (There used to be- it was HighRisk Pools, but that wasn't good enough, apparently).

    HealthCare Reform is normally THE #1 Dem Priority. For Repubs, HealthCare is normally about #23 or so. Tells me Repubs have decent jobs, and Dems don't.
     
  7. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    So if some people wanted to pay the government for their health coverage instead of paying a corporation to do it, and you were allowed to continue on what ever you have now
    your telling me you would be against them doing that?
     
  8. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    That's a red herring. Soon as it would happen, you change it to racists and rich want the poor to choose between healthcare and food. You've done it before.
     
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  9. kboomarang

    kboomarang My allah, between pie and mode AD-FREE USER

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    If no children are involved and your health is good, with good family history all you should really need or want is a good "catastrophic" coverage, the reduced cost of the policy and out of pocket expenses would go a long way in ocasional doctor visits.
     
  10. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    I've been going thru the whole HealthCare thing lately. Medicare sold my phone number to about 1,000 companies who have been calling me constantly, even tho I'm on the Do Not Call list. One caller even asked me, when I told I'm I'm on that list:""How's that working out for you, Dumbass?"

    I just turned 65, and we are required to register for Original Part A. There is a penalty of 10% per year if you don't register for Part B and don't have a continuous employer supplied policy. Medicare wouldn't answer my questions without an hour wait, so I called Anthem. A very kind and polite young man answered my questions, informed me that my company paid insurance is better and cheaper than any Part B he sells, and calmed my fears of penalties and "special enrollment" penalties when I DO finally retire, in a couple more decades. Had I remained a Central States Teamster, they kick you to Medicare upon turning 65. My employer, instead, allows my wife and me to stay on their coverage forever, as long as I remain a Full Time Employee. Presently, I pay $112 biweekly for my wife and I. (Batesville contributes $13,000 yearly). Anthem's rate would be $134@month for me, and my younger wife would have to buy a government insurance policy. No thanks!!!!!
     
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  11. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    So why should anyone be forced to pay a private corporation to administer my health care?

    Shouldn't I have a choice to have a government agency do the same thing and do it much cheaper?

    I said that with this plan I could join it and you could stay where you are.

    So whats the beef?

    Why do I have to do exactly what you are doing?

    Suppose I'm self employed and insurance company's won't give me any group discount like you get with your employer.
     
  12. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Make sure you have the right thing with the part B thing or else it will cost you more when you do go to Medicare. ( I don't know why they do that, but some people must have been taking advantage of something there)
    Your company is providing a great deal for you so keep it as long as you can more for your wife then you because you will get Medicare and don't need the insurance like she does.

    But we all know one day you'll have to retire and lose the coverage so just know what your options are.
    There are many companys that offer Medicare advantage plans. Medicare pays them to cover you with their plan, here in Florida many offer plans with no additional monthly costs. Same kind of thing like 80% coverage for big items and somethings without copays. Plans like I have the only have to I have to conform with is I have to go to my family Doctor which I choose. I can change that by calling the company up and giving a new name to them and they will switch it over. Other then that I can go to any specialist I want to see who are in the plan or go outside and pay a bigger copay. I don't have to have my Family Doctor refer me to anybody. His office does set things up for me like a CAT scan coming up. But I could do that on my own if I choose to.

    There are some pretty good things out there for you, when you need it. But I do understand your wife needs to age into it before you feel you can do that.
     
  13. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    No I'm talking about some real choices that are going to be talked about. And if a Democrat wins the next election your going to have to deal with.

    Some want complete coverage through Medicare, that means everyone would get a deduction from their paycheck to go to your Medicare coverage, not free.

    Others say let the person choose, ( public option) do they stay with the employers plan or do they want to enroll in Medicare.
    I think for the immediate future a 'public option system' would work best in our nation.

    That give's people a choice and you won't feel Obama is forcing it on you.
    I'm sure it will be mandatory that you have one or the other, thats the only heavy hand.

    Other then that you won't be forced to stay on a job you don't like because your health insurance is tied to it.
    Many people will decide to open small business's and it will make the economy more robust.
    and those small employers won't be forced to pay huge premiums to cover their employee's
    And Medicare has the highest approval rate by far for any procedure your dr thinks is necessary.

    I see mostly positive effects for the nation with a plan like this
     
  14. LewSir

    LewSir Well-Known Member

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    repeal Obamacare and give the elderly a choice for their healthcare.

    Obamacare wants elderly to die. Your in mid 60's? So Obama wants you to have zero coverage.
     
  15. LewSir

    LewSir Well-Known Member

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    Trump got over %60 of the vote. You just had 2 dims announce run today. Between what 5,700 running for president on the dumb side, nobody dropping out yet, how you going to rig this election?
     
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  16. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    Rand Paul has a plan to allow small businesses to form healthcare buying co-ops, so all biz can join one and lower costs.

    The problem with your plan is that it still uses taxpayer $$$. Get government completely out of it, and form your own co-op, like a group of Christian's did with a group called Medi-Share. It's a completely legal way to avoid OCare. . They pay a small monthly fee, and then break up all medical costs of the members amongst themselves. Your Group could be the MacGoober Group, or whatever you want. Use your imagination for once, instead of believing Government as the first, last, and only solution.
     
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  17. Rastus

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    The beef is once this government starts it never stops, they won’t stop until they completely control health coverage.
     
  18. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    That's the 100 year plan of Woodrow Wilson, Otto Von Bismarck, and Vladimir Lenin, started in 1916. Look at the calendar...... ooops!!!!
     
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  19. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Did you need Rand Paul to get that for you. couldn't you always form your own coop?
    Then you have to buy it from some other company ( ala for profit corporation) who will spend about 15-25% of your premium dollars on costs and profits.
    Why do you insist that those crooks can do it better then the government does when the government only spends 4 cents on the dollar to cover costs?

    But as I say that would be your choice to spend with them
     
  20. 20_yrs_2_go

    20_yrs_2_go So we got that going for us, Wich is nice

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    Getting emails for HC now and quotes
    It sounds like HC will be sold on a individual need then quoted accordingly
     

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