New Penn | SAIA LTL FREIGHT

1955 we were best in the world and our numbers were only 36%.......now look where they are......and look where the nation is. and has been going since they have been going down....but keep believing that we are no good.,,,,the facts are that our nation was best at most everything when our numbers were our highest.....and we are crap except at finance since ur numbers are down.....and finance lies about their numbers and we bail them out.
I'm sure if I searched and found different stories...I'd find that all the negatives about our society has gone up as union numbers have gone down.....divorce, single parents, welfare, crimes, incarcerations.....all the stuff that takes tax money to fix.....and somehow our society rewards those who benefit from our decline...makes no sense....but it never did ...did it?
As much as I hate to say it I agree with some things you say. But I will keep those things to myself.
 
Our line drivers can make 100K+ a year or more. City can be around 80K depending on how many hours you want to work. Not bad for a blue collar worker. If you wanted big money you should have stayed in college or just been more aggressive. Don’t blame the man. Blame yourself. The money is there for everyone to take if your aggressive in nature. Stop blaming the government for everything. Most millionaires started with nothing. You have such a victimized mentality.
good stuff!
 
Have you guys lost any drivers to this POS company? Have you lost any customers to them either? They are snakes and will go after your sales representatives and customers. They are moving very fast and now in New York. Don’t let them sell you their BS. They will stab you in the back with those driver facing cameras. Just remember that when you think the grass could be greener on the other side I’m here to tell you it’s not. Stay under the protection of your CBA.
 
Have you guys lost any drivers to this POS company? Have you lost any customers to them either? They are snakes and will go after your sales representatives and customers. They are moving very fast and now in New York. Don’t let them sell you their BS. They will stab you in the back with those driver facing cameras. Just remember that when you think the grass could be greener on the other side I’m here to tell you it’s not. Stay under the protection of your CBA.
just lost the terminal manager to them. no other personnel because they don't have a terminal within the 5 boros of NYC. going to & from NJ will cost you $15-18 in tolls daily
 
just lost the terminal manager to them. no other personnel because they don't have a terminal within the 5 boros of NYC. going to & from NJ will cost you $15-18 in tolls daily
Just get ready because it won’t be long before they have other terminals. Rick O’dell, SAIA’s CEO is married to Bill Zollars daughter and I shouldn’t have to tell you what he has done to YRC. He has an inside track with inside information. SAIA is coming. And they are coming fast. Watch your back!
 
1955 we were best in the world and our numbers were only 36%.......now look where they are......and look where the nation is. and has been going since they have been going down....but keep believing that we are no good.,,,,the facts are that our nation was best at most everything when our numbers were our highest.....and we are crap except at finance since ur numbers are down.....and finance lies about their numbers and we bail them out.
I'm sure if I searched and found different stories...I'd find that all the negatives about our society has gone up as union numbers have gone down.....divorce, single parents, welfare, crimes, incarcerations.....all the stuff that takes tax money to fix.....and somehow our society rewards those who benefit from our decline...makes no sense....but it never did ...did it?
Main reason 55 was such a good year, is, I started to work for Ryder!
 
Not really. I chose New Penn because some of your guys chose to jump ship to SAIA. I don't think it will have much of an impact on your business. Plenty of freight to go around. Why do you think some jumped ship? New Penn appears to be a great company.

I hope you end up happy with your choice Runaway. Especially if you are trying to support a family. In my experience although SAIA has stringent safety measures and systems in place, they pay drivers especially city in accordance to the expectations of performance and safety. Last I checked $30/hr was close to if not industry best in the PA market. I won’t provide my thoughts on union vs non-union as this thread is not the place for it. I will say having hands on experience with this industry for a long time and seeing all of the packages for LTL drivers SAIA offers a much better option for the professional driver than New Penn. Unfortunately the protection of the union and the dues teamsters are paying for bargaining power is not worth it any more. If you are happy where you are then stay. If you need to make more money and want to improve your lifestyle then look at other options. I can rattle off at least 5 carriers union and non that offer a much better compensation package than what you have currently. I do wish you the best and again if you are truly happy where you are it’s not always about money. The grass is rarely greener my friend....
 
I hope you end up happy with your choice Runaway. Especially if you are trying to support a family. In my experience although SAIA has stringent safety measures and systems in place, they pay drivers especially city in accordance to the expectations of performance and safety. Last I checked $30/hr was close to if not industry best in the PA market. I won’t provide my thoughts on union vs non-union as this thread is not the place for it. I will say having hands on experience with this industry for a long time and seeing all of the packages for LTL drivers SAIA offers a much better option for the professional driver than New Penn. Unfortunately the protection of the union and the dues teamsters are paying for bargaining power is not worth it any more. If you are happy where you are then stay. If you need to make more money and want to improve your lifestyle then look at other options. I can rattle off at least 5 carriers union and non that offer a much better compensation package than what you have currently. I do wish you the best and again if you are truly happy where you are it’s not always about money. The grass is rarely greener my friend....
The professionals you speak of sure weren’t sought by SAIA when they opened in NJ, except for a few experienced guys Most of the guys they hired on were fresh out of Tractor school with a CDL that reads “automatic only”. And they don’t get that great compensation package you speak of because SAIA is starting guys at different rates according to their experience.
 
That is a question only time will play . I think if they become a union company things will change .
Yes, but if they become a union com0pany they will end up out of business like every other LTL Carrier has. We are down to 2 and one is on its deathbed...
The history is not good...
 
Really ! Just never forget this , For the UNIONS make you get what you get NOW ! Because we make your job better ! Even if not UNION >> so go and hind


The market set pay rates today, if we were attached to union scale drivers would be paid less..
Wait until the union get their way and a Democrat wins in 2020 and your healthcare no longer comes from your employer. Your taxes will jump to approx. 50% for incomes up to $100,000 upwards of 75% for those higher
And you pay for your own healthcare like in Europe via a VAT Tax of 20-24% depending on the country
I was in Germany this summer and gasoline had a 25% VAT Tax for their free healthcare...…
Every product or service has a VAT Tax for free healthcare, plus it sucks.... But it's free..
But you dues will help pay for this government benefit.. enjoy....
 
The market set pay rates today, if we were attached to union scale drivers would be paid less..
Wait until the union get their way and a Democrat wins in 2020 and your healthcare no longer comes from your employer. Your taxes will jump to approx. 50% for incomes up to $100,000 upwards of 75% for those higher
And you pay for your own healthcare like in Europe via a VAT Tax of 20-24% depending on the country
I was in Germany this summer and gasoline had a 25% VAT Tax for their free healthcare...…
Every product or service has a VAT Tax for free healthcare, plus it sucks.... But it's free..
But you dues will help pay for this government benefit.. enjoy....
And which of the crazy dems running do you actually think has a shot at winning?
They may not all like Trump but the 75 percent of Americans who enjoy the healthcare they have are not going to vote themselves into Medicare.
 
The market set pay rates today, if we were attached to union scale drivers would be paid less..
Wait until the union get their way and a Democrat wins in 2020 and your healthcare no longer comes from your employer. Your taxes will jump to approx. 50% for incomes up to $100,000 upwards of 75% for those higher
And you pay for your own healthcare like in Europe via a VAT Tax of 20-24% depending on the country
I was in Germany this summer and gasoline had a 25% VAT Tax for their free healthcare...…
Every product or service has a VAT Tax for free healthcare, plus it sucks.... But it's free..
But you dues will help pay for this government benefit.. enjoy....
I’ll never vote For Dems but I would love to make a couple bucks less an hour in exchange for their insurance . Years ago , maybe 2006-2008 the ins was worth approx $11 an hour . XPO insurance in one word . SUCKS !
 
The market set pay rates today, if we were attached to union scale drivers would be paid less..
Wait until the union get their way and a Democrat wins in 2020 and your healthcare no longer comes from your employer. Your taxes will jump to approx. 50% for incomes up to $100,000 upwards of 75% for those higher
And you pay for your own healthcare like in Europe via a VAT Tax of 20-24% depending on the country
I was in Germany this summer and gasoline had a 25% VAT Tax for their free healthcare...…
Every product or service has a VAT Tax for free healthcare, plus it sucks.... But it's free..
But you dues will help pay for this government benefit.. enjoy....
Sometimes it's hard to accept the truth but without the UNION'S you people would be working for nothing face the facts . If Germany was so bad why did you go ?
 
Wait until the union get their way and a Democrat wins in 2020
WOW, you predict that an unnamed democrat will win in 2020. I hope your early prediction is wrong. Not that I want to see Trump reelected but he may again just be the lesser of the 2 evils.
But you dues will help pay for this government benefit.. enjoy....
That is an interesting opinion. I wonder how the dues of the remaining few union workers will pay for government benefits? From what I have seen on TBs you are the biggest union hater who posts. From what I remember just about every post you make attacks unions in some way. Gong back from 2004 to the present you are the biggest poster of untruths that I have seen. For that reason IMO you have zero credibility. Maybe if you had left the mobbed up under the hat job at NEMF back in the 70s and worked for a real union job you might not be so bitter towards the Teamsters.
 
Sometimes it's hard to accept the truth but without the UNION'S you people would be working for nothing face the facts . If Germany was so bad why did you go ?
Since you need to know it was a wedding and yes it was bad.
Unless you like socialism and (⊙▃⊙)'s..
 
WOW, you predict that an unnamed democrat will win in 2020. I hope your early prediction is wrong. Not that I want to see Trump reelected but he may again just be the lesser of the 2 evils.

That is an interesting opinion. I wonder how the dues of the remaining few union workers will pay for government benefits? From what I have seen on TBs you are the biggest union hater who posts. From what I remember just about every post you make attacks unions in some way. Gong back from 2004 to the present you are the biggest poster of untruths that I have seen. For that reason IMO you have zero credibility. Maybe if you had left the mobbed up under the hat job at NEMF back in the 70s and worked for a real union job you might not be so bitter towards the Teamsters.
OR if the union had done what I paid them for perhaps I'd find them useful.
But since union jobs pay much less than non union jobs I have been proven to be right.
But I'm retired now, so I need workers like you to pay for my benefits... Thank you...
Enjoy...
 
But I'm retired now, so I need workers like you to pay for my benefits... Thank you...
Wrong again fella, I'm not paying your benefits, no one is. You are not receiving any benefits and whatever small pension you are getting from 560 you earned and paid for yourself. What was the accrual back then maybe $15? What about you lying that you sued the pension fund? Then when it was proven that you lied you admitted that you weren't even old enough to retire. Zero credibility for Puff Driver.
 
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