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Crumudgeon

Crumudgeon

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Brothers and Sisters: We sent a clear message to both the Union and the Company, by almost a 2 to 1 margin!!! Proud of the turn-out, shows how bad the proposal it was and is.
Now in a civilized and respectful way, no personal attacks, name calling and other things we can address at a later date, let us list the reasons, and the proposals WE can support. You know they read these posts, Once again please be civil.
 
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My main issues are the two-tiered wage system they tried to implement, please don't sell out our future members.
The $1.25 cent over 5 YEARS mileage increase, an 80% cut from our last contract. Then to have it split over the life of the deal, come on, that's downright insulting to us all.
No incentive for new hires, no change to progression, lower than our competitors starting wage. This baffles me, in a tight labor market you would think they would want to attract quality prospects.
The 1800 hour requirement, maybe 1600, as a trade off..
Increase the pension by $10 a year immediately, and $1 a year for the next 5..
 
No certain order here
No two tier at all.
$1.00hr ea.yr. Jan 1st. no splits.
Stop sub contracting.
NO 1800HRS,1400 instead
Pension increase.
Free healthcare, as most other union co.have included in their dues.
$15.00hr.start pay part time.
Vacation improvements
15yrs 4wks
20-5wks
25-6wks
30-7wks
 
Muffdiver69 said:
No certain order here
No two tier at all.
$1.00hr ea.yr. Jan 1st. no splits.
Stop sub contracting.
NO 1800HRS,1400 instead
Pension increase.
Free healthcare, as most other union co.have included in their dues.
$15.00hr.start pay part time.
Vacation improvements
15yrs 4wks
20-5wks
25-6wks
30-7wks
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I thought I was asking for a lot!!!!!! Agreement on the contractor issue.
 
Stop the fuzzy math no subcontractors by the end of the contract 20% reduction per year for 5 years. Rails are subcontractors
No 2 tier wages
.01 cpm and $1.00 per hour
Starting pay at $20 per hour and .50 cpm top in 3 years
8 discretionary days per year
 
#1-A decent Starting wage progression for drivers= $18.00 probation/ $20.00 after probation/$23.00 1 year/$26.00 2nd year/top rate after 3rd year.
#2- $14.00 starting wage for part time dock workers until probation/$15.00 after probation.
#3-NO MORE Punching in lower pay classification if you have worked 1 minute in a higher pay class each day.
#4 No change to Health plan. it is a good compromise for both party's.
#5 No change in reports to obtain full Vacation benefits.
#6 No change in Hours worked to obtain full pension credit.
#7 No 2nd tier wages even if they are a temporary result of the start or end of a progression.
#8 $3.00 per hour increase over the 5 yr contract in equal annual installments jan 1.
#9 Holiday pay for all full time employees that have met the 45 punches in 90 day probation.
#10 Stronger language to motivate the company to reduce contractors at a reasonable rate (10% per year)
 
FRTCHUCKER said:
#1-A decent Starting wage progression for drivers= $18.00 probation/ $20.00 after probation/$23.00 1 year/$26.00 2nd year/top rate after 3rd year.
#2- $14.00 starting wage for part time dock workers until probation/$15.00 after probation.
#3-NO MORE Punching in lower pay classification if you have worked 1 minute in a higher pay class each day.
#4 No change to Health plan. it is a good compromise for both party's.
#5 No change in reports to obtain full Vacation benefits.
#6 No change in Hours worked to obtain full pension credit.
#7 No 2nd tier wages even if they are a temporary result of the start or end of a progression.
#8 $3.00 per hour increase over the 5 yr contract in equal annual installments jan 1.
#9 Holiday pay for all full time employees that have met the 45 punches in 90 day probation.
#10 Stronger language to motivate the company to reduce contractors at a reasonable rate (10% per year)
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That's what I'm talking about, you and TP are giving it some thought. We are not small pak, we will never reach equality with them, but we need to stay on top of the heap for LTL..
 
On the contractor issue. A one percent reduction a year with 100 drivers added. The initial drum beating was "NO contractors'. We must all accept there will always be a need on one-way lanes for a certain amount of subbing needed. What in effect is happening is the Company is creating those by directing freight in their favor. We need oversight into routing as to create more direct Company run routes. The flaw in the one percent a year is if business increases 10%, they get a nine percent increase in allowing contractors.
 
Crumudgeon said:
On the contractor issue. A one percent reduction a year with 100 drivers added. The initial drum beating was "NO contractors'. We must all accept there will always be a need on one-way lanes for a certain amount of subbing needed. What in effect is happening is the Company is creating those by directing freight in their favor. We need oversight into routing as to create more direct Company run routes. The flaw in the one percent a year is if business increases 10%, they get a nine percent increase in allowing contractors.
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Overbite didnt have that problem.Old dominion and most of the other LTL industry doesn't either
 
Next few offers nothing will change,we'll have to keep sending it back until they want to become serious.
Whatever we do do not let them sell us the "oh were not making much money" UPGF has chose to sit on the sidelines and watch fedex freight,old dominion open 3 terminals alone to our 1 terminal time has come upgf needs too get the big picture
 
Muffdiver69 said:
Next few offers nothing will change,we'll have to keep sending it back until they want to become serious.
Whatever we do do not let them sell us the "oh were not making much money" UPGF has chose to sit on the sidelines and watch fedex freight,old dominion open 3 terminals alone to our 1 terminal time has come upgf needs too get the big picture
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Absolutely agree!!! We "work as directed", until they address the poor excuses of part-time supervisors nothing is going to change... The ball is in their court....
 
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