Yellow | The Butch Lewis Act

I think it's time someone yelled and screamed about what the billionaire/CEO class in this country are doing to the working people of America. Being quiet and polite isn't helping to solve this problem. James Welch and his billionaire buddies ain't being polite to you or me or the working class. Attention needs to be brought to the pension crises and the exploding wealth inequality. Shouting stupidly may or may not help the situation, but if it brings attention to it I'm all for it. Furthermore, I hesitate to call anyone who is fighting for me - for my pension - for my ability to retire with dignity - stupid.
I think it's time to stop sending billions of our tax dollars over seas to help other countries. I think it's time to stop spending our tax dollars on people entering our country illegally. Our tax dollars should be spent on helping fellow American tax payers first.
 
I think it's time to stop sending billions of our tax dollars over seas to help other countries. I think it's time to stop spending our tax dollars on people entering our country illegally. Our tax dollars should be spent on helping fellow American tax payers first.
I think it’s time the Treasury Dept took less money from the working class, then we would be more able to take care of ourselves without any help!
 
So because the Republicans won't even let this bill out of committee, therefore Senator Brown is suspect? Shouldn't you be concerned about the people who stopped Senator Brown rather then with Senator Brown himself?



I think it's time someone yelled and screamed about what the billionaire/CEO class in this country are doing to the working people of America. Being quiet and polite isn't helping to solve this problem. James Welch and his billionaire buddies ain't being polite to you or me or the working class. Attention needs to be brought to the pension crises and the exploding wealth inequality. Shouting stupidly may or may not help the situation, but if it brings attention to it I'm all for it. Furthermore, I hesitate to call anyone who is fighting for me - for my pension - for my ability to retire with dignity - stupid.



Dude, did you look at the graphic? There is a distinct red/blue divide.



Another way would be to vote these *&$#$)*^$(%#-ers out of office.
https://www.constitution.org/cons/crockett.htm

Colonel David Crockett was schooled by his constituents; It's not Congress's Money to Give Away...
 
I think it’s time the Treasury Dept took less money from the working class, then we would be more able to take care of ourselves without any help!
since this political thread has been brought into YRC (and it has its own forum), I might as well agree partly with you, and post a solution:

End Baseline Budgeting that requires a 7% spending increase every year or be deemed a cut. Go Zero Base Budgeting, where every dollar spent is a 100% increase.

Stop taxing income; Repeal the 16th Amendment, and (17th, which turns the Senate into Mob rule by Party, instead of following their state legislature's intents, as the Constitution requires) and go with the Fair Tax!!!

https://fairtax.org

By eliminating withholding, every taxpayer gets to keep his Entire paycheck. By having no corporate tax, the USA becomes the lowest taxed nation in the world, and companies flock to our shores to set up business, which hires more workers, and- because of competition for employees, raises payrates. The poor get Prebates to pay the amount of taxes they would pay on the consumption tax. It's a Win Win Win!

Eliminate withholding, Move election day to the same day state (or Federal, if they still exist) taxes are due. Pay taxes in the morning, vote in the afternoon, remembering who just spent your tax money. Things would change in one election cycle!
 
So because the Republicans won't even let this bill out of committee, therefore Senator Brown is suspect? Shouldn't you be concerned about the people who stopped Senator Brown rather then with Senator Brown himself?



I think it's time someone yelled and screamed about what the billionaire/CEO class in this country are doing to the working people of America. Being quiet and polite isn't helping to solve this problem. James Welch and his billionaire buddies ain't being polite to you or me or the working class. Attention needs to be brought to the pension crises and the exploding wealth inequality. Shouting stupidly may or may not help the situation, but if it brings attention to it I'm all for it. Furthermore, I hesitate to call anyone who is fighting for me - for my pension - for my ability to retire with dignity - stupid.



Dude, did you look at the graphic? There is a distinct red/blue divide.



Another way would be to vote these *&$#$)*^$(%#-ers out of office.

I hope you realize that everything you post was written in 1848 by Karl Marx. Translated into American English, it's almost word for word, at times. The classic us vs them, protelariat vs bourgeoisie.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/


In The Ten Commandments, it's called Envy, and defined as a Sin.
 
Hypothetical question: For all those people who are in favor of Government (taxpayer) money being used to bail out our pension funds; Would you feel the same way if the pensions being bailed out were for non-union companies?
I for one would say yes.
If your gonna F everyone. Then F everyone.
If you gonna help everyone help everyone.
Union or non.
We are all lower middle class and no one gives a ::shit:: about us.
So we have to give a ::shit:: about us.
Union or non. We all work hard (for the most part) every day.
Some alot longer than others.
And to just retire in comfort and no worries would be nice.
I'm not talkin butt load rich. Just worry free retirement.
I have 31 years this month. I'm done. Stick a fork in me and let me retire in comfort and not be a burden on anyone. (I know. Bailout by taxpayers (me) or foodstamps)
Sorry. Off the top of the head rant.

Oh. Got a
P. S.
I don't need the bailout.
But I sure would welcome guaranteed amount without running out at a certain time.
 
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The Louisiana Purchase? That was :horseshit: man!
It wasn't the La Purchase. If you read the article, it was building a house for a military man's widow. There is nothing in the US Constitution that calls for other people's wealth being taken to benefit someone else. That line of thinking comes directly from the Fabian Socialists, and Karl Marx.
 
So Butch Lewis doesn’t pass and a few years from now CSPF goes belly up! So is the government going to fund (bailout) the PGBC ? After all we paid the premiums!


Or Welch on that too?
 
So Butch Lewis doesn’t pass and a few years from now CSPF goes belly up! So is the government going to fund (bailout) the PGBC ? After all we paid the premiums!


Or Welch on that too?

Insurance companies can and do fail when events take place that were over and above what was anticipated/planned for - floods, natural disasters, etc. No guarantees in life, even when the premiums are paid.
 
I think it’s time the Treasury Dept took less money from the working class, then we would be more able to take care of ourselves without any help!

Because I'm sitting in a truck, board out of mind waiting on my meet and turn driver, I'm gonna go all intellectual on you. So hold on this could get bumpy.

Working class wages are set in post-tax dollars not pre-tax dollars.

For example, let's say you make 80k a year and pay a 50% tax rate. Your take home is 40k. Now let's say your taxes are reduced to zero, and, wall la, your take home is now 80k.

But -- and here's the kicker -- the company knows that you are willing to work for 40k a year. Now, what do you think any CEO worth a dam will do in that situation? He's gonna reduce your pay to 40k because that's (barring a Union contract) the market price of your labor.

Likewise and forthwith, when income taxes are raised on wage earners the same thing will happen only in reverse. Your pay will go up so that your take home pay remains at market value.

Fortunately, we belong to a union so our wages are protected from "free" market forces to a certain extent.

Dam, this truck won't idle. It keeps shutting off on me. Where's my union representation when I need it? I'm fileing on this ::shit::. I deserve post and pre tax A.C.
 
Insurance companies can and do fail when events take place that were over and above what was anticipated/planned for - floods, natural disasters, etc. No guarantees in life, even when the premiums are paid.
I know every bit of what you said Trip. Now that we have that out of the way what do you think the government will do in regards to the funding shortage of the PGBC?
 
Because I'm sitting in a truck, board out of mind waiting on my meet and turn driver, I'm gonna go all intellectual on you. So hold on this could get bumpy.

Working class wages are set in post-tax dollars not pre-tax dollars.

For example, let's say you make 80k a year and pay a 50% tax rate. Your take home is 40k. Now let's say your taxes are reduced to zero, and, wall la, your take home is now 80k.

But -- and here's the kicker -- the company knows that you are willing to work for 40k a year. Now, what do you think any CEO worth a dam will do in that situation? He's gonna reduce your pay to 40k because that's (barring a Union contract) the market price of your labor.

Likewise and forthwith, when income taxes are raised on wage earners the same thing will happen only in reverse. Your pay will go up so that your take home pay remains at market value.

Fortunately, we belong to a union so our wages are protected from "free" market forces to a certain extent.

Dam, this truck won't idle. It keeps shutting off on me. Where's my union representation when I need it? I'm fileing on this :::shit:::. I deserve post and pre tax A.C.

The huge flaw in your argument is that the cost to the company is the same in both cases - they are paying 80k to the employee with no tax just as they are to the employee with 50% tax. So the employee is not working for 40k as you contend.
 
I know every bit of what you said Trip. Now that we have that out of the way what do you think the government will do in regards to the funding shortage of the PGBC?

I honestly don't know Bart. We seem to be living in a time where everyone expects to be made whole regardless of what caused their issue. I don't know if there is a good solution to every unpleasant event.
 
The huge flaw in your argument is that the cost to the company is the same in both cases - they are paying 80k to the employee with no tax just as they are to the employee with 50% tax. So the employee is not working for 40k as you contend.
But no employer will pay 80k to an employee who is paying zero in taxes and taking home 80. because the employer knows the employee will do the same work for 40. The employer will set the wage according to the take home amount -- the post tax amount.

CEOs may be greedy, but they ain't stupid.
Bill Dollars may be an exception to that.
 
I honestly don't know Bart. We seem to be living in a time where everyone expects to be made whole regardless of what caused their issue. I don't know if there is a good solution to every unpleasant event.
The hard part today is plannnig on what the hell we do have the pension went sour the backup isn’t looking to good and then Social Security is started to smell a little!! Three deep people thought they had something at the end of the day!
 
Dude
It wasn't the La Purchase. If you read the article, it was building a house for a military man's widow. There is nothing in the US Constitution that calls for other people's wealth being taken to benefit someone else. That line of thinking comes directly from the Fabian Socialists, and Karl Marx.

Dude, I'm just messing with you. I appreciate your keen interest in U.S. history. I enjoy a good history lesson myself. You should look up the connection between Abraham Lincoln and Karl Marx. Fascinating stuff.
 
But no employer will pay 80k to an employee who is paying zero in taxes and taking home 80. because the employer knows the employee will do the same work for 40. The employer will set the wage according to the take home amount -- the post tax amount.

CEOs may be greedy, but they ain't stupid.
Bill Dollars may be an exception to that.

Ok, just show a little research to back your position.
 
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